RajElectric
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- Brantford, Ontario
Tough to untie AB knot on a climb line? What the heck is being done? 
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Circus bowline.Huh? CBl?
Agreed, I canopy anchor with the alpine butterfly all the time and have never had an issue with untying after a climb. Also I know that I am obviously biased but from watching the video the butterfly is much easier to tie and bidirectional.... What's not to likeTough to untie AB knot on a climb line? What the heck is being done?![]()
Circus Bow(l)ine - sorry... getting carried away with the TOMLA's.Huh? CBl?
I do that every once and a while, I use figure 8 on a bight too for my base anchor knot. 2 wraps, figure 8 to delta to backside of climb line.Figure 8 on a bight tied midline is fast and comes apart easy after heavy loading. You can make the eye as small as you need it.
-AJ
I do that every once and a while, I use figure 8 on a bight too for my base anchor knot. 2 wraps, figure 8 to delta to backside of climb line.
Delta TIP with Tagline Pull-down & captive box wrench:
Easily set, moved & reset. Relatively easy pull-down even with a few redirects.
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Tyler, I think we need to have us a good old fashioned video raceAgreed, I canopy anchor with the alpine butterfly all the time and have never had an issue with untying after a climb. Also I know that I am obviously biased but from watching the video the butterfly is much easier to tie and bidirectional.... What's not to like
That tagline go all the way to the ground, it must.Delta TIP with Tagline Pull-down & captive box wrench:
Easily set, moved & reset. Relatively easy pull-down even with a few redirects.
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Good questions. The tagline does go all the way to the ground -- it is a pull-down, after-all. It doesn't get any more in-the-way than any other pull-down. It's 9mm Yalon {Yale Cordage} that came in Box-O-Rope from TreeStuff.com. It's strong enough to bail-out and rap-down if necessary. It's similar to the two-half-rope techniques used in rock-climbing.That tagline go all the way to the ground, it must.
Does it get in the way much? What diameter/cordage is it?
Sorry for the questions, that is something I have oft sat pondering. And would love some input.
You have obviously underestimated my technological illiteracy.... I can tie knots but recording videos and then actually being able to properly post them on the Googlenet... I'm not quite there yetTyler, I think we need to have us a good old fashioned video race
Well next time I see you thenYou have obviously underestimated my technological illiteracy.... I can tie knots but recording videos and then actually being able to properly post them on the Googlenet... I'm not quite there yet
My favorite SRT Canopy anchor is to send up a Running Bowline tied at the eye splice end of my line. Upon reaching that, I convert it to a Ring-2-ring FS with the "Hitch-Hiker Stopper Knot" just behind the small ring. When I do this, I bring up a small ditty bag with 80' of 8mm retrieval cord. I attach that to the eye splice and pitch the bag out of the crown.
When you canopy anchor like this, it solves a whole bunch of things;
- You can climb just like you would if base anchored, so you can install a good number of natural redirects and still easily retrieve.
- Throwline is awful for retrieval, being so light it can tangle or be really hard to pull out friction from redirects.
- You can use a much shorter climbing line since you don't need all that extra length for the retrieval side.
- The 8mm line is inexpensive, but can be pulled on with a foot ascender or handled asunder if you're retrieving with friction from several redirects.
- The 8mm line also weighs less than climb line, so you have much less tendency for the stopper knot to creep away from the small ring when you're un-weighting your working side while real close to the FS.
If I desired a canopy anchor for a quick straight up straight down job where I had no plan to climb to (or beyond) my canopy anchor, I would choose an Alpine Butterfly with a Delta Link. For extended climbs, prunes, I would probably choose a base anchor, or the FS method described above.