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Aaron Cipolletti said:
DSMc seems like your taking this for what it is .. Do you remember any saws you used. My pop says gas homelite xl 12s up in trees after electric first
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Sorry Aaron, I am not a saw guy and even when it was working well, my memory has always been spotty. We did have Homelites and Macs and some big old gear drives, some with stingers on the end of the bar. What I do remember is how heavy and awkward they were and that even with sharp chains they cut like crap when compared to today's saws.
 
Yeah ..gear drives nice and slow ..good for stump flushing if that .! I'm guessing the synthetic rope you spoke of probably nylon .. Do you remember the name of the company you worked for with the yacht lines ? Was it all three stand? I know my pop talks about guys dying from the manilla strands rotting out .. He said if they got wet then dried wouldn't take long and they'd be popping ! Scary time to climb in them days man!
 
guymayor said:
... You can take all the new gear and the methods and the bling bling; I'll take the tautline thanks very much. :) ?... just can't see the benefit, having tried many times.

But the Wraptor, I'm glad for that technology!
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Guy, you could be the poster old guy for what I was trying to explain. You love the Wraptor because it makes your life easier with just the push of a button. There is nothing wrong with that, the Wraptor is a great new tool. But do you honestly believe that because " you tried" a new way of climbing and "can't see the benefit" that it is just eye candy, bling bling?
Much of managing trees does require movement throughout the canopy. Anything that facilitates that and makes it easier or safer goes a long way in stopping cuts of convenience. You know those appalling cuts that were made because that is what they could reach. Quality of tree care goes hand in hand with the ability to move well in the tree. Limiting that ability is.....
 
Limiting that ability is something I'm not buying.. I will in the meantime buy almost anything to make my climb more comfortable , controlled, consistent . Just to name a few. Want to be in trees when I'm eighty five !
 
MARK_CHISHOLM said:
There was a great climber here in NJ named Ken Gregory that climbed at our workday one year and I want to say he was in his mid 75' then. I remember him footlocking. He was know for teaching people how to footlock back in the 70's. Great guy and climber!
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Mark .. My Pop said his name over and again .. tells me it sounds very familiar . Tells me he'll call a couple guys he knows from shade tree see if they can find Ken. Be cool to find out who's still going!
 
I began climbing in early 1969 and stopped in Aug 69 to mid 71 got out early because of return from Vietnam, USMC. I returned to the trees and have been a production climber ever since. I climbed for about 2 years for different companies while doing side work to learn tree company procedure. I got an Associates Degree in business part time on the GI Bill while humping trees. Studied Perone from the start and followed Shigo when he came on the scene and met him in 1980 and began following him like a groupie because I could fly for free with my wife with Delta.

If you did not climb on manilla and never ran a Power Mac 6, didn't climb every day for decades on a taughtline, never used a Super Whiz 88, don't know what a Homelite xl 12 is, never used a timber hitch...then you have no right to say you are an ole timer.

If you are an ole timer and you haven't changed to a slack tending system, aren't dedicated to personal fitness, don't own a Wraptor or a big shot, think an MS 150 is stupid, don't own a mini and a dump trailer, still use a manual drill for cabling, don't have a camming lanyard...then you are an artifact and not a production climber (probably just a recreation climber or token weekend warrior) who by the way MUST have an aerial truck and crane in his arsenal to boot.

Oh...picture asked for, by the Hunterdon County Democrat, in the newspaper and in the Chamber of Commerce annual magazine somewhere in the mid '70's I think. NOBODY in that vast area could compete with me in a td or for beautiful pruning...and probably still can't...at almost 66. I still climb EVERY day if necessary in my business that has always been to this day...me and a groundy which put 4 kids thru college, live in an upper middle class n'borhood and own mass equipment, all from me putting every piece of material on the ground or doing treatments, cables, etc myself.

Poulan Super 25 DA on belt at that time. Power house but burnt the schit outta ya especially in shorts.

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Bad ass post treevet as usual ! Thanks for the pics ! Hopefully keeps going with guys digging in the archives and just a little at each other ! :p
 
Ive bucked with super whiz ,climbed tuantline for a few years, still tie plenty of timber hitches and working on staying young , but also working on growing old .
 
Aaron, here is an ole timer I used to climb with at Bartlett in early'70's and I owned a house with my fam near his. We were a bunch of young stud climbers and would climb circles around him and party together all night. He would sleep all lunch hour and then begin to preach to convert our heathen ways before it was too late when he awoke. But if there was a high profile job pruning on the Delorean estate etc, or a big complicated high level td...boss tossed him the ball. I had maybe 2 years in and could not understand this but I do now.

Newspaper art. 3/99 my sis sent to me well after I moved to Cinci.

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Absolutely awesome tree vet! About the only thing I didn't do on your list is climb on manila, was too smart for that. You have me by about 5 years. Also, thanks for your service. It was an ugly time and an ugly war. You have my highest respect!
 
and you mine oldoakman. As for the manilla...we had no alternative til esterlon came out in the form of 3 strand safety blue around 75 I recall in western Jersey for us. Saw some nasty 3 strand manilla climbed on and highly deteriorated hitches still used. Heard that if an manilla cl line layed in an orchard for a short time something maybe from the rotten apples caused a defect and there were deaths related to this. Have nothing to substantiate this tho.
 
Poulan 25 was my fav for a lonnnnnng time! I thought that the muffler burns were going to be permanent!

I wish I had more pics of my early years. Only a few and most aren't scanned.

Partner P100...cutting firewood.
 

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Tom Dunlap said:
Poulan 25 was my fav for a lonnnnnng time! I thought that the muffler burns were going to be permanent!

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for others to know why...check out how that bare muff sticks out in the pict above. damn near caught my pants on fire many a time and if you wore plastic rain pants...forget about it. But man that saw could crank, even with a 16 on it.
 
Any ol timer or any body ever here of the diston with mercury engine two man saw ..how about the old Remington Maul ? I think my dad has a pic of that saw I'm digging up .. as well as more packed away .
 
I could have bought a Diston way back while working on a farm. I remember it having a 2 man handle and the bar turned. Pretty valid technology if you think about it. Huge saw, hard to turn sideways, so you just turn the bar sideways. I prob. did not buy it for worries about beer money back then. It would have just been a display saw when you had a Whiz 88 big saw. One time I was cutting a beech with it and it ate the entire t shirt right off my back. It had a big opening in the crank.
 
TreeLogic said:
Say what???

Way too easy :)
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Sure...you were welcome to use their POHLON saw as a climbing saw but they weren't gonna go outta their way to do anything for you dumass climbers like...put a saddle attachment ring on the back, or color it a more sensible color other than green (non camo with uh greenery), or ...recess or put a cage outside the muff so you didn't barbque your privates with it :-(
 
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