easyphloem
Branched out member
- Location
- Louisville, KY
Re: OTCC sign up forms
And that would be like 52.5 pounds of raw fish.
And that would be like 52.5 pounds of raw fish.
KentuckySawyer
Participating member
- Location
- Louisville
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Cool I'll see you on Fri. Cory.
Be safe be happy Scotty
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Can't wait! I need some time off.
Are you studying the sushi menu, Scotty?
Cool I'll see you on Fri. Cory.
Be safe be happy Scotty
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Can't wait! I need some time off.
Are you studying the sushi menu, Scotty?
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rich_h
Guest
OTCC Gear Check Clarifications
Subject: OTCC Gear Check Clarifications
For those climbers that might have questions regarding gear check here are a few clarifications that I have recently received word on:
Treemotion harness: Although it is not, as of yet, ANSI approved the view of our commitee is that this piece of equipment has been designed specifically for the purpose of perfoming tree work and meets International safety standards and therefore will be allowed for use in this competition.
Microcender: This piece and any other fall protection/work positioning equipment with quick release mechanisms MUST be fitted with a bolt and nut or it will NOT be allowed for use in this competition. Here is the applicable section in the rules book:
2.2.11 No equipment used in a fall protection and/or work positioning system shall incorporate quick release mechanisms. Where applicable, quick release mechanisms must be replaced with a manufacturer-approved bolt and nut assembly. (2007)
Sushi Aided Climbing: Climbers who have gorged themselves on sushi either the night before or the morning of the competition are allowed to show off their super human fish assisted strength to the general public as long as they are aware of the potential ramifications that may occur. We have set the acceptable Blood/Mercury levels at 900,000 PPM. We will not be responsible for any divorces, separations, or any other relationship issues that may arise due to shows of excessive strength.
Feel free to contact me if there are any questions regarding gear check.
Subject: OTCC Gear Check Clarifications
For those climbers that might have questions regarding gear check here are a few clarifications that I have recently received word on:
Treemotion harness: Although it is not, as of yet, ANSI approved the view of our commitee is that this piece of equipment has been designed specifically for the purpose of perfoming tree work and meets International safety standards and therefore will be allowed for use in this competition.
Microcender: This piece and any other fall protection/work positioning equipment with quick release mechanisms MUST be fitted with a bolt and nut or it will NOT be allowed for use in this competition. Here is the applicable section in the rules book:
2.2.11 No equipment used in a fall protection and/or work positioning system shall incorporate quick release mechanisms. Where applicable, quick release mechanisms must be replaced with a manufacturer-approved bolt and nut assembly. (2007)
Sushi Aided Climbing: Climbers who have gorged themselves on sushi either the night before or the morning of the competition are allowed to show off their super human fish assisted strength to the general public as long as they are aware of the potential ramifications that may occur. We have set the acceptable Blood/Mercury levels at 900,000 PPM. We will not be responsible for any divorces, separations, or any other relationship issues that may arise due to shows of excessive strength.
Feel free to contact me if there are any questions regarding gear check.
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rich_h
Guest
Re: OTCC Gear Check Clarifications
One rule clarification in regards to Aerial Rescue:
Climbers will NOT be allowed to move laterally on the access line while secured with a Prusick or Klemheist. The climber must set a backed up secondary work positioning system on the access line if they intend to work off the static ascent line. If a climber intends to work off the ascent line tied in with a doubled rope system, you will be allowed to move laterally off the ascent line.
All of this will be covered in the climbers meeting on Friday June 1st, but I just thought I would warn you in advance.
One rule clarification in regards to Aerial Rescue:
Climbers will NOT be allowed to move laterally on the access line while secured with a Prusick or Klemheist. The climber must set a backed up secondary work positioning system on the access line if they intend to work off the static ascent line. If a climber intends to work off the ascent line tied in with a doubled rope system, you will be allowed to move laterally off the ascent line.
All of this will be covered in the climbers meeting on Friday June 1st, but I just thought I would warn you in advance.
easyphloem
Branched out member
- Location
- Louisville, KY
Re: OTCC Gear Check Clarifications
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Sushi Aided Climbing: Climbers who have gorged themselves on sushi either the night before or the morning of the competition are allowed to show off their super human fish assisted strength to the general public as long as they are aware of the potential ramifications that may occur. We have set the acceptable Blood/Mercury levels at 900,000 PPM. We will not be responsible for any divorces, separations, or any other relationship issues that may arise due to shows of excessive strength.
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Two questions:
1. Any rule on judges being hopped up on sushi during the day?
2. How will the mercury levels be tested?
SZ
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Sushi Aided Climbing: Climbers who have gorged themselves on sushi either the night before or the morning of the competition are allowed to show off their super human fish assisted strength to the general public as long as they are aware of the potential ramifications that may occur. We have set the acceptable Blood/Mercury levels at 900,000 PPM. We will not be responsible for any divorces, separations, or any other relationship issues that may arise due to shows of excessive strength.
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Two questions:
1. Any rule on judges being hopped up on sushi during the day?
2. How will the mercury levels be tested?
SZ
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rich_h
Guest
Re: OTCC Gear Check Clarifications
[/ QUOTE ]Two questions:
1. Any rule on judges being hopped up on sushi during the day?
2. How will the mercury levels be tested?
SZ
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Judges will be expected to have a Blood/Mercury level between 400,000 and 800,00 PPM or they may be replaced. (That means you too Scotty) All samples will be collected through the jugular using my 48" Splice Wand.
Hope this helps Stephan.
[/ QUOTE ]Two questions:
1. Any rule on judges being hopped up on sushi during the day?
2. How will the mercury levels be tested?
SZ
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Judges will be expected to have a Blood/Mercury level between 400,000 and 800,00 PPM or they may be replaced. (That means you too Scotty) All samples will be collected through the jugular using my 48" Splice Wand.
Hope this helps Stephan.
Re: OTCC Gear Check Clarifications
One more week. I finally found a good sushi spot here in Indiana if any of you blokes are passing through or come to Indiana for any reason. Looking forward to meeting everyone and putting faces with names and everything. I think this is fixing to be an amazing competition.
One more week. I finally found a good sushi spot here in Indiana if any of you blokes are passing through or come to Indiana for any reason. Looking forward to meeting everyone and putting faces with names and everything. I think this is fixing to be an amazing competition.
- Location
- Charlotte, NC
Re: OTCC Gear Check Clarifications
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Judges will be expected to have a Blood/Mercury level between 400,000 and 800,00 PPM or they may be replaced. (That means you too Scotty) All samples will be collected through the jugular using my 48" Splice Wand.
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That's OK Rich I'll just bring my chair and sit and enjoy this time. Just think I will not have to take as much baggage not having to bring my climbing gear.
Scotty
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Judges will be expected to have a Blood/Mercury level between 400,000 and 800,00 PPM or they may be replaced. (That means you too Scotty) All samples will be collected through the jugular using my 48" Splice Wand.
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That's OK Rich I'll just bring my chair and sit and enjoy this time. Just think I will not have to take as much baggage not having to bring my climbing gear.
Scotty
easyphloem
Branched out member
- Location
- Louisville, KY
Re: OTCC Gear Check Clarifications
Rich, Question:
Would it be advisable for me to bring my banana hammocks?
If not, that's OK.
In other news, I got my packet today, and I am honored to be at your service, and am delighted to find out that Corey and Roger will be assisting me (or more like, telling me what to do)!
I got a room at the Hilton (you know me, first class all the way). Rock and or Roll girl says I can't invite many anonymous single women back to the room though.
I also received the sushi menu, and find that I must begin researching what most of the items are. I especially don't want to ingest anything that might increase my libido, which is currently out of control. If anything, I need an Anti-Cialis.
with mucho love,
SZ
Rich, Question:
Would it be advisable for me to bring my banana hammocks?
If not, that's OK.
In other news, I got my packet today, and I am honored to be at your service, and am delighted to find out that Corey and Roger will be assisting me (or more like, telling me what to do)!
I got a room at the Hilton (you know me, first class all the way). Rock and or Roll girl says I can't invite many anonymous single women back to the room though.
I also received the sushi menu, and find that I must begin researching what most of the items are. I especially don't want to ingest anything that might increase my libido, which is currently out of control. If anything, I need an Anti-Cialis.
with mucho love,
SZ
RogerM
Carpal tunnel level member
- Location
- Louisville,KY USA
Re: OTCC Gear Check Clarifications
Here's a hint Easy,
Big cooler; Ice
By the way nice Avatar
Brand new right?
Here's a hint Easy,
Big cooler; Ice
By the way nice Avatar
Brand new right?
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rich_h
Guest
Re: OTCC Gear Check Clarifications
It is WAYYYYYYYYYY to early for banana hammocks around this way my friend ,better off saving them for the swimsuit contest in Hawaii. Sounds like you and Rob (RemovalWizzard) are shoe ins to take that one. Speaking of Hawaii remind me to get a hotel several miles away from you and your overactive libido. As I am sure you are aware MOST Japanese food is an aphrodisiac in one form or another and MOST of the food you will be eating in Hawaii will be at least somewhat Japanese.
Forecast for the weekend: sunny and tropical
forecase for the Cavs game: Detroit loses big
forecast for the Indians season: world series baby
Chances of me being correct on any of this: Not much
It is WAYYYYYYYYYY to early for banana hammocks around this way my friend ,better off saving them for the swimsuit contest in Hawaii. Sounds like you and Rob (RemovalWizzard) are shoe ins to take that one. Speaking of Hawaii remind me to get a hotel several miles away from you and your overactive libido. As I am sure you are aware MOST Japanese food is an aphrodisiac in one form or another and MOST of the food you will be eating in Hawaii will be at least somewhat Japanese.
Forecast for the weekend: sunny and tropical
forecase for the Cavs game: Detroit loses big
forecast for the Indians season: world series baby
Chances of me being correct on any of this: Not much
Re: OTCC Gear Check Clarifications
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Subject: OTCC Gear Check Clarifications
For those climbers that might have questions regarding gear check here are a few clarifications that I have recently received word on:
Treemotion harness: Although it is not, as of yet, ANSI approved the view of our commitee is that this piece of equipment has been designed specifically for the purpose of perfoming tree work and meets International safety standards and therefore will be allowed for use in this competition.
Microcender: This piece and any other fall protection/work positioning equipment with quick release mechanisms MUST be fitted with a bolt and nut or it will NOT be allowed for use in this competition. Here is the applicable section in the rules book:
2.2.11 No equipment used in a fall protection and/or work positioning system shall incorporate quick release mechanisms. Where applicable, quick release mechanisms must be replaced with a manufacturer-approved bolt and nut assembly. (2007)
Sushi Aided Climbing: Climbers who have gorged themselves on sushi either the night before or the morning of the competition are allowed to show off their super human fish assisted strength to the general public as long as they are aware of the potential ramifications that may occur. We have set the acceptable Blood/Mercury levels at 900,000 PPM. We will not be responsible for any divorces, separations, or any other relationship issues that may arise due to shows of excessive strength.
Feel free to contact me if there are any questions regarding gear check.
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RE: Harnesses - by reason, this should extend to all EN813 work position harnesses designed for tree climbing?
What about ascenders used for ascent - they are normally quick release?
The only way you'd get me to eat sushi is if I was already in hospital or well on my way
I hope you all have fun.
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Subject: OTCC Gear Check Clarifications
For those climbers that might have questions regarding gear check here are a few clarifications that I have recently received word on:
Treemotion harness: Although it is not, as of yet, ANSI approved the view of our commitee is that this piece of equipment has been designed specifically for the purpose of perfoming tree work and meets International safety standards and therefore will be allowed for use in this competition.
Microcender: This piece and any other fall protection/work positioning equipment with quick release mechanisms MUST be fitted with a bolt and nut or it will NOT be allowed for use in this competition. Here is the applicable section in the rules book:
2.2.11 No equipment used in a fall protection and/or work positioning system shall incorporate quick release mechanisms. Where applicable, quick release mechanisms must be replaced with a manufacturer-approved bolt and nut assembly. (2007)
Sushi Aided Climbing: Climbers who have gorged themselves on sushi either the night before or the morning of the competition are allowed to show off their super human fish assisted strength to the general public as long as they are aware of the potential ramifications that may occur. We have set the acceptable Blood/Mercury levels at 900,000 PPM. We will not be responsible for any divorces, separations, or any other relationship issues that may arise due to shows of excessive strength.
Feel free to contact me if there are any questions regarding gear check.
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RE: Harnesses - by reason, this should extend to all EN813 work position harnesses designed for tree climbing?
What about ascenders used for ascent - they are normally quick release?
The only way you'd get me to eat sushi is if I was already in hospital or well on my way
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rich_h
Guest
Re: OTCC Gear Check Clarifications
[/ QUOTE ]RE: Harnesses - by reason, this should extend to all EN813 work position harnesses designed for tree climbing?
What about ascenders used for ascent - they are normally quick release?
The only way you'd get me to eat sushi is if I was already in hospital or well on my way
I hope you all have fun.
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My thoughts exactly on the harness, but as Treemotion is the only newer European harness that we are likely to see at this event I chose to cite it specifically. Kolibiri and Treeflex would be included in this ruling as well.
Any ascenders that are being used MUST be backed up, hence their approval for use. I haven't met too many climbers that back up their safetly lanyards yet, but who knows, if their microcender with a quick release was backed up, by rule it would pass.
Lazarus, you are missing out on some good eats with the sushi. Incidentally vegetarian sushi is quite delicous as well. If we ever meet up I would be more than happy to treat you to some of my favorites. Thanks for the well wishes.
[/ QUOTE ]RE: Harnesses - by reason, this should extend to all EN813 work position harnesses designed for tree climbing?
What about ascenders used for ascent - they are normally quick release?
The only way you'd get me to eat sushi is if I was already in hospital or well on my way
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My thoughts exactly on the harness, but as Treemotion is the only newer European harness that we are likely to see at this event I chose to cite it specifically. Kolibiri and Treeflex would be included in this ruling as well.
Any ascenders that are being used MUST be backed up, hence their approval for use. I haven't met too many climbers that back up their safetly lanyards yet, but who knows, if their microcender with a quick release was backed up, by rule it would pass.
Lazarus, you are missing out on some good eats with the sushi. Incidentally vegetarian sushi is quite delicous as well. If we ever meet up I would be more than happy to treat you to some of my favorites. Thanks for the well wishes.
Re: OTCC Gear Check Clarifications
Next time I'm in the states, I'll definitely take you up on your sushi offer Rich! Davina will probably be with me, and she loves it.
There is a reason I'm not keen: One day I was stranded by the side of a country road for 5 hrs before my family found me. I was hanging out my car semi conscious after a dodgy seafood dinner the night before. I thought I was dying (seriously); Apparantly my body went in to toxic shock - this involved making me collapse so the body could concentrate function on vital organs. Hell of a feeling sensing all your outer extremeties going numb, then passing out, then waking to find the numbness extending. I can only describe it as death creeping up on me, taking an arm or a leg at a time. No one is kidding when they say seafood can kill you - you gotta go to Hospital if you get ill!
I got an allergic reaction for 12 months afterwards if I tried seafood. Even now, if I have fish, it feels like a lottery. I only tend to eat it close to home.
I look forward to pics of the comp!
Next time I'm in the states, I'll definitely take you up on your sushi offer Rich! Davina will probably be with me, and she loves it.
There is a reason I'm not keen: One day I was stranded by the side of a country road for 5 hrs before my family found me. I was hanging out my car semi conscious after a dodgy seafood dinner the night before. I thought I was dying (seriously); Apparantly my body went in to toxic shock - this involved making me collapse so the body could concentrate function on vital organs. Hell of a feeling sensing all your outer extremeties going numb, then passing out, then waking to find the numbness extending. I can only describe it as death creeping up on me, taking an arm or a leg at a time. No one is kidding when they say seafood can kill you - you gotta go to Hospital if you get ill!
I got an allergic reaction for 12 months afterwards if I tried seafood. Even now, if I have fish, it feels like a lottery. I only tend to eat it close to home.
I look forward to pics of the comp!
easyphloem
Branched out member
- Location
- Louisville, KY
Re: OTCC Gear Check Clarifications
Glad that seafood didn't take you all the way down, Laz.
Last evening, we had a small earthquake, and it coincided precisely at the same time my girlfriend took this picture of me climbing a little White Oak in my front yard.
Don't worry, I was fine.
Looking forward to seeing errrrrybody real soon!
SZ
Glad that seafood didn't take you all the way down, Laz.
Last evening, we had a small earthquake, and it coincided precisely at the same time my girlfriend took this picture of me climbing a little White Oak in my front yard.
Don't worry, I was fine.
Looking forward to seeing errrrrybody real soon!
SZ
- Location
- Bloomington, Indiana
Re: OTCC Gear Check Clarifications
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What about ascenders used for ascent - they are normally quick release?
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Any ascenders that are being used MUST be backed up, hence their approval for use. I haven't met too many climbers that back up their safetly lanyards yet, but who knows, if their microcender with a quick release was backed up, by rule it would pass.
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The statement about 'quick release' mechanisms is one of the things in the 2007 rules that needs to be reworded. Many saddles are advertised as having 'quick release' buckles. Seems that these saddles should also be DQ'ed--or have a backup.
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What about ascenders used for ascent - they are normally quick release?
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Any ascenders that are being used MUST be backed up, hence their approval for use. I haven't met too many climbers that back up their safetly lanyards yet, but who knows, if their microcender with a quick release was backed up, by rule it would pass.
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The statement about 'quick release' mechanisms is one of the things in the 2007 rules that needs to be reworded. Many saddles are advertised as having 'quick release' buckles. Seems that these saddles should also be DQ'ed--or have a backup.
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rich_h
Guest
Re: OTCC Gear Check Clarifications
That is a scary story there Lazarus. Glad to see you made it through and still willing to eat some fish.
We can't wait to see everyone this weekend. Travel safely everyone !!!!!!! Anyone still looking for a place to stay just plan on bringing a sleeping bag, we have plenty of room for you.
That is a scary story there Lazarus. Glad to see you made it through and still willing to eat some fish.
We can't wait to see everyone this weekend. Travel safely everyone !!!!!!! Anyone still looking for a place to stay just plan on bringing a sleeping bag, we have plenty of room for you.
- Location
- Charlotte, NC
Re: OTCC Gear Check Clarifications
I'm up, it's early, and I'm heading for the airport, see you all in a short time. Let's have a blast.
Scotty
I'm up, it's early, and I'm heading for the airport, see you all in a short time. Let's have a blast.
Scotty
Re: OTCC Gear Check Clarifications
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What about ascenders used for ascent - they are normally quick release?
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Any ascenders that are being used MUST be backed up, hence their approval for use. I haven't met too many climbers that back up their safetly lanyards yet, but who knows, if their microcender with a quick release was backed up, by rule it would pass.
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The statement about 'quick release' mechanisms is one of the things in the 2007 rules that needs to be reworded. Many saddles are advertised as having 'quick release' buckles. Seems that these saddles should also be DQ'ed--or have a backup.
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Interesting you should say that Mahk, because joking aside, it is considered - I think even quick release buckles are double action. E.g. On 'TreeFlex', the leg buckles have two pins that must be depressed at the same time to release, and having independant leg loops and buckles, you would still be attached to waist and one leg if one buckle released. The shackles we now use in TFX have threads both ends of the pin. One of the threads has a rubber type sheave that grips the thread like hell (similar to nylock). These are called 'shake proof pins' i.e. they cannot release except by a leverage tool with consistent pressure for the entire length of the thread. So we now have a double safety there too, without relying on 'Loctite'.
Re: lanyard adjusters, I think maybe a tool that can be backed off under load should be used in this situation. e.g. a Grillion type device is preferable to a microcender. I prefer a friction hitch currently.
Quite a shake you got there EP
- Looks like you had to use the 'Koala Hug' to ride it out!
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What about ascenders used for ascent - they are normally quick release?
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Any ascenders that are being used MUST be backed up, hence their approval for use. I haven't met too many climbers that back up their safetly lanyards yet, but who knows, if their microcender with a quick release was backed up, by rule it would pass.
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The statement about 'quick release' mechanisms is one of the things in the 2007 rules that needs to be reworded. Many saddles are advertised as having 'quick release' buckles. Seems that these saddles should also be DQ'ed--or have a backup.
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Interesting you should say that Mahk, because joking aside, it is considered - I think even quick release buckles are double action. E.g. On 'TreeFlex', the leg buckles have two pins that must be depressed at the same time to release, and having independant leg loops and buckles, you would still be attached to waist and one leg if one buckle released. The shackles we now use in TFX have threads both ends of the pin. One of the threads has a rubber type sheave that grips the thread like hell (similar to nylock). These are called 'shake proof pins' i.e. they cannot release except by a leverage tool with consistent pressure for the entire length of the thread. So we now have a double safety there too, without relying on 'Loctite'.
Re: lanyard adjusters, I think maybe a tool that can be backed off under load should be used in this situation. e.g. a Grillion type device is preferable to a microcender. I prefer a friction hitch currently.
Quite a shake you got there EP
- Location
- Charlotte, NC
Re: OTCC Gear Check Clarifications
I have made it to Ohio and they ae telling me this is hot. Mepersonaly thinks it perfect. See everyone soon.
Scotty
I have made it to Ohio and they ae telling me this is hot. Mepersonaly thinks it perfect. See everyone soon.
Scotty
