Industry post Covid19

colb said:
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How will coronavirus change the world?

Could the huge shifts in our way of life being introduced as part of the fight against Covid-19 pave the way for a more humane economy?
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Good article. If anyone wants to get into it while locked up at home, a pretty good read is Jeffrey D. Sachs - The Price of Civilization - believe he won a Noble Prize in Economics for his work.
 
I think all industries are goig to take a big hit. Ours is comparitavly small and mostly made up from small family type companies. Even the companies that manifacture the gear are small and specialised, therfor vunarable. Every single peice of equipment you have is made by some one, paid for by some one, shipped by some one and so on. All of these people are subject to the same problems we are all having. Customers are going to have more on there minds and less in the bank. I honestly cant see them saying "Hi darling did you have a good day looking for work, and by the way I hired three guys to prune a tree in the yard, it was a bargain and only a few hundred dollers. They cleaned up and everything." I think for the forseable futture the only reliable arb work is going to be in utilities, as its esential and they can afford it, because tree guys are going to be cheep. I think the out look is a bit grim and while it is good to be optamistic, I think a splash of realism a good idea. In other words hope for the best plan for the worst. good luck all.
 
rico said:
As someone who spent yrs working for high ballin yarder outfits I can tell you logging is much more dangerous that arb work....
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No question about it.... Anytime you're dealing with trees that have been dead for so long and invisible overhead threats that you cannot detect, or incredibly massive trees that would never be growing in a backyard, then all the equipment, terrain, and coordination.

Lots more ways to die. So that should be one reason why we differentiate our techniques from theirs. Many of the precautions used in logging are simply not required in tree work and blindly following the ways of the logger without understanding the "why" is an all too common hindrance to our industry.
 
Great thread!
Many of the “unsafe cowboys” or “fly by nights” with payments they can hardly afford might not make it through something like this.. it is unfortunate for someone to lose a business but as many of you agree it opens up the opportunity for businesses who try to do everything right (from safety to business practices) a chance at jobs always taken by these companies... however, with everyone getting laid off and losing jobs we project a lot of “I have a chainsaw and a pickup I could go make a buck” coming right back to the market.
Our plan..
Continue to set ourself apart in the industry. Be the reputable company that truly cares about employees, the environment , and the community. expanding to find new ways to make revenue is and any way to make money during this “storm”.
advertising, this opens up many avenues to advertise not your company.. but the culture of your company. Maybe this means staying home to protect your workers, family, and keep numbers down in the hospital will prove Your company isn’t just about the dollar.
 
We are currently five fold of the highest unemployment numbers in our history. Truth is though no one knows how this is going to play out in the long term. We have never ‘voluntarily’ shut down the economy before on a scale anything close to this.

Times are going to be tough globally, but I don’t foresee this being a long term economic issue. The next few years will certainly suck, if federal elections are postponed or delayed it will just make matters worse. If the feds take more power, things will get worse. If we revolt, well, things will be worse before better, if the alt right start rolling in pickup trucks with their semi autos things will be much worse....

Anyone hear about the train engineer? Off the hook!
 
tnttree said:
Plant a trillion trees
Its sad that very few Arborists plant trees
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Yes, it is. There is very little need to around here, though. We have a company that specializes in planting and relocating trees that is fairly local. I believe that is about all of the demand that we have. I have probably planted less than 50, and that is including a few before I was in the field.

Arkansas has so many young trees that there is almost always something promising to leave and let grow if we can talk the people into it.
 
moss said:
We should take this opportunity to stage a military action against arbs and landscapers who plant trees without working on the rootball, don’t find the root flare before planting and who volcano mulch. If we can achieve this strategic victory the world of arboriculture will be a better place ;-)
-AJ
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Here, here and also against those cities/ municipalities that unleash their stupid contractors with hydraulic spades to plant caliper boulevard trees into what now amounts to a clay pottery container (they don't take the time to even spade the sides) and are amazed that the trees they've planted go a couple of years or so and then begin to kick the bucket. Oh well, union job, do it all again in five years time . . . . it makes you shake your head . . . . .
Do we need an anti-stupidity poster ? . . . . .

Edit: Nice video Andrew. One other thing I find around here is landscapers pile rocks (including crush) around trees and over time the tree grows with sharp rocks sometimes embedded right into the bark. Combine that with up to four (yes, count them) layers of landscape fabric and it's no wonder the trees don't do well.
 
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moss said:
We should take this opportunity to stage a military action against arbs and landscapers who plant trees without working on the rootball, don’t find the root flare before planting and who volcano mulch. If we can achieve this strategic victory the world of arboriculture will be a better place ;-)


-AJ
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That is what it's all about! Just had a friend give me a job for 4 collar excavations this morning. Looking forward to them when we are clear to open back up. Thanks for the video!
 
I had wealthy hedge fund customers say that they can always replace trees that are cut down! As a result, in this town we have many properties with ruined tree scapes, trees that were there way before we were born! Sure you can replace trees with nursery grown stock, but you will never usually be able to approach how well suited the previous trees were to the landscape.
 
ghostice said:
Here, here and also against those cities/ municipalities that unleash their stupid contractors with hydraulic spades to plant caliper boulevard trees into what now amounts to a clay pottery container (they don't take the time to even spade the sides) and are amazed that the trees they've planted go a couple of years or so and then begin to kick the bucket. Oh well, union job, do it all again in five years time . . . . it makes you shake your head . . . . .
Do we need an anti-stupidity poster ? . . . . .

Edit: Nice video Andrew. One other thing I find around here is landscapers pile rocks (including crush) around trees and over time the tree grows with sharp rocks sometimes embedded right into the bark. Combine that with up to four (yes, count them) layers of landscape fabric and it's no wonder the trees don't do well.
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Have heard tales of city councils preferring trees to die and be replaced as it counts towards their totals of trees planted per year, and is also cheaper than looking after them properly apparently!!!
 
I don't know of a council that would advocate basically wasting money for the sake of a tree count.

Perhaps when it comes to planting small and inexpensive bare root seedlings as the mortality rate is much higher but not expensive containers or B&Bs
 
JD3000 said:
I don't know of a council that would advocate basically wasting money for the sake of a tree count.

Perhaps when it comes to planting small and inexpensive bare root seedlings as the mortality rate is much higher but not expensive containers or B&Bs
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Happens quite a lot where I live sadly. Number of trees planted is seen as a very exciting target that must be met. Quality over quantity I say...
 
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