How to tell when it's too dead

Yeah, it was a tad lousy.

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Did a somewhat monstrous poplar (lean, large cavity at base on tension side) in town last week. Owners had got a lotta estimates. I was the big winner...(yay!).....$1500 just to get it on the ground. Highest quote from a competitor (well known outfit B.Tree Expert Co.....nice yellow trucks and equipment) was $7000. They were going to bring in a crane to supplement their bucket truck. I climbed and dismantled it in slightly over 5 hours, with many thanks to a good ground team, and a Hobbs lowering device. Will put up some photos if the guys ever forward some to me.
That's what's up. Nicely done
 
Yeah, it was a tad lousy.

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Did a somewhat monstrous poplar (lean, large cavity at base on tension side) in town last week. Owners had got a lotta estimates. I was the big winner...(yay!).....$1500 just to get it on the ground. Highest quote from a competitor (well known outfit B.Tree Expert Co.....nice yellow trucks and equipment) was $7000. They were going to bring in a crane to supplement their bucket truck. I climbed and dismantled it in slightly over 5 hours, with many thanks to a good ground team, and a Hobbs lowering device. Will put up some photos if the guys ever forward some to me.
Dude, I mean no disrespect but you spent most of the day with a crew rigging a hazard tree that could be reached with a bucket? For $1500? I assume that was 5 hours in the tree? Why not bid it for $2000 and rent a bucket? Only saw trunk pic, so maybe it wasn't that bad and everybody else over bid it.
 
Yes, 5 hours in the tree. About 1 & 1/2 hours of that with a MS441.
I believe a person can grow way too dependant on using a bucket or tracked lift, etc.
I was getting wood on the ground pretty much as fast as they could get it outta the way.
btw, I used to own a bucket. Sold it 9 years ago, and seldom miss it.
I'll be 55 in March.

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Yes, 5 hours in the tree. About 1 & 1/2 hours of that with a MS441.
I believe a person can grow way too dependant on using a bucket or tracked lift, etc.
I was getting wood on the ground pretty much as fast as they could get it outta the way.
btw, I used to own a bucket. Sold it 9 years ago, and seldom miss it.
I'll be 55 in March.
5 hours in the tree means prob a full day with drive time and set up. Why not use a bucket? They was plenty of room in the bid. You said they were getting it out of the way. I assume that means u had 3 people on that job. Why climb a hazard tree that u could put a bucket on with a 3 man crew for almost all day for $1500? It's awesome that u are still taking down trees at 55. There are plenty of shit trees out there that equipment won't reach. It sounds like there was an plenty of cash on the table to get equipment and still get the job. Why not use it and save ur skills for the ones u can't? I don't know u or the job so I may be wrong.
 
I knew you would. You're not the first old, gay billygoat that finds me irresistible. But, you swing one way in the tree, Liberace, and I swing the other way. Sorry, you're in for some big disappointments.


You're the biggest disappointment Gu Gu but I'll tough it out even tho that smell of rotten fish in the air is tuff to take when you post. Whose Liberace son?
 
dead trees are one of those things i really wish i had a seasoned mentor to learn from, instead of learning my limits by rolling up to a job and deciding as I'm climbing the tree whether or not I'm going to continue. guess we learn either way tho...
Pelorus, dead white pines just creep me out, good stuff getting em' done.
 
dead trees are one of those things i really wish i had a seasoned mentor to learn from, instead of learning my limits by rolling up to a job and deciding as I'm climbing the tree whether or not I'm going to continue. guess we learn either way tho...
Pelorus, dead white pines just creep me out, good stuff getting em' done.


Exactly what I've been trying to say all along
 
dead trees are one of those things i really wish i had a seasoned mentor to learn from, instead of learning my limits by rolling up to a job and deciding as I'm climbing the tree whether or not I'm going to continue. guess we learn either way tho...
Pelorus, dead white pines just creep me out, good stuff getting em' done.

Here's a word for you....guile...comes from years of practicing an art that is dangerous and observing and noting all that is happening and REMEMBERING the experience. Things that diminish your memory such as heavy alcohol or drug use inhibits your memory and guile which gives you both defense from getting injured or killed and confidence in what you are doing. Hard for a mentor to convey that to you...time in the saddle and working your way up to more and more difficult and dangerous jobs gives it. No shortcuts. Does help to have a mentor on the ground while you are working tho but usually someone of that caliber is working elsewhere or off bidding while you put your time in.
 
Yes, 5 hours in the tree. About 1 & 1/2 hours of that with a MS441.
I believe a person can grow way too dependant on using a bucket or tracked lift, etc.
I was getting wood on the ground pretty much as fast as they could get it outta the way.
btw, I used to own a bucket. Sold it 9 years ago, and seldom miss it.
I'll be 55 in March.

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Damn those Carolina poplars are vicious growers, that one grew 6-12' a year... upside down!
 
Don't forget all you employees out there...there are plenty of employers that just might favor making money over your safety and are fully aware that your injuries or worse may just be a Worker's Comp. claim and nothing more. Beware.
Any "boss" should be able to do any tree they ask you to do in my opinion.

I had some interesting bosses. Most would go up and do it. One that I had called me out of a tree or two that were pretty sketchy. He's a good guy. Risked himself instead of me. Can't say that for all of em.
 

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