homemade pully saver?

Nice vid and nice system.
Wouldn't it be easier to pre install a lenght off trow line directly to the large ring. when installing it up in the tree. I see something like a chalkbag a little snapper that goes into the large eye and your ready.

That sure spares a lot of time and effort and makes things easier i.m.o.

But nice vid and good thought out system.

Climb safe
wouter
 
Wow entree that is a cool trick. I can see myself screwing it up though and getting completely tangled. Might take some practice. I didn't quite see how you tied the quick release stopper knot.
 
Thanks to all for checking out the videos. Another version of this system has a Pinto on the big ring side and a prusik loop as the adjuster. The retrieval is girthed onto the prusik loop to pull it over the pulley. What this allows is greater extension of the pulley through the choke, and is great for allowing it to follow you around a spar, preventing rope drag.

Wouter ~ I hear your idea about the chalk bag. My thinking was based on how I have been doing most of my work. I start with a secured footlock or base-tied SRT to my desired TIP. From there, a simple biner on the big ring side means I don't have to return to the TIP to drop a line, and droping a line might get tricky with a large number of branches below the TIP. With remote retrieval, the throwline follows the same path as the climbing line. I usually found that a choked spar would afford me more mobility, so I looked into a variety of friction savers. The A.R.T. ropeguide was just too costly for me, so we came up with this.

Kevin ~ Practice does help, or just preoccupy your entire life with thoughts of climbing, and it will come to you...I'm sure you understand! The stopper knot is just an overhand with a bight. When you pull down on the tail, the bight comes out and releases the bag.

Banjo / Treedoclang ~ The saver in the video is the first generation, before we had sourced a slightly larger ring to work with a Pinto. Jim and I talked about some options, and how little clearance we had to work with, so he suggested making the saver with Hi-Vee, which is a COVER dependent line. The core comes out entirely, meaning that the tight eyes are almost flat as they wrap around the ring. This afforded much more room than any other line. The video points out how the Cocoon can be oriented different ways, and the 90 degree set-up keeps everything nicely aligned...

AND, with the soft retrieval, it means you have control over both ends of the saver from the ground, meaning you can pull back and forth if needed to release.

Thanks again for everyone taking the time to check it out!

Happy climbing!
 
Wesport, Lc, eh? Didnt realize fellow buzzers were so local. Fairhavens where I hail.

Love Shelter Tree, just wish they would carry more of the legit stuff and lay off the coppies so much just to make a cple dollars.

As far as the homemade P.S. spend the 200 and get the real deal, its well worth it.
 
That retrieval method is fantastic! Just the trick a lot of pulley saver owners were looking for! Makes it seem alot more attractive now knowing that.
 
Thanks, Jeff. In response to the whole push on buying certain things, I'm not trying to sell anything, nor do I officially represent any institution or business but my own. I'm just sayin', by having a local person build you a custom piece, you're helping support them. I'm not certain of the cost of the unit as a "package", but I can be certain that the one I showed is a bit more versatile than others, and potentially less expensive, especially if you already own a compatible pulley. I also think Shelter provides great support and attention that is hard to get elsewhere...I'm just sayin'.
 
I've spent many hours at NE Grows talking to Jim, he got me hooked on splicing. George is a great guy as well. I don't take it as you are selling anything, merely sharing ideas. I think anyone who owns this style friction saver, regardless of manufacturer can benefit from your trick, if they weren't aware of it previously. Thanks!
 
Cool, Jeff. Thanks for the kind words. Jim got me hooked as well. He's got leather hands...I wore the skin off mine after just a few tight eyes in Tachyon. He makes it look so easy! Let me know how it works for you and I look forward to any feedback or ideas.
 
Thanks, Casey. I'd love to know how it works for you. Again, we're working on a version with a slightly different variation. I'll try to get everything posted as soon as I can.

PS: Seems like arboriculture is really in your bloodline. I have to admit, I'm a bit envious!
 
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Hope I didnt send that impression. In total agreement that George and Grace are always right there and on top of thier game, and I try to support local bussiness as much a possible.
I did use your retrieval method today an a tip of the hat bc it solved some of the issues I had been having.
 
Cool, Patrick. I know the stopper knot wasn't quite visible in the video, but I'm pretty sure it's a knot most of us should really know and potentially use daily. Overall the retrieval is quite simple, but I'll admit one might have to extend their normal throw line since you need 3x the distance of the TIP to the ground. Hey, throw line is still affordable...
 
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