Guns- who should have them?

[Tom Dunlap]

Dead is dead.

We, assuming that the thread participants are arborists, work in a dangerous profession. We are required to follow all sorts of rules, regulations and professional best practices. Equipment and practices are changed when we realize that they are leading to injuries and death.

If we lost as many people in the workplace [proportionally] to guns I wonder...would there be as much or less of an uproar?

Switzerland, Israel and other countries have a militia more like the American Revolutionaries. That was then...we don't have a militia, we do have an armed population though. Two different things.

 

[jabezkin]

Dead is dead.

We, assuming that the thread participants are arborists, work in a dangerous profession. We are required to follow all sorts of rules, regulations and professional best practices. Equipment and practices are changed when we realize that they are leading to injuries and death.

If we lost as many people in the workplace [proportionally] to guns I wonder...would there be as much or less of an uproar?

Switzerland, Israel and other countries have a militia more like the American Revolutionaries. That was then...we don't have a militia, we do have an armed population though. Two different things.

I'm as much of a hack at being an arborist as some folks are with guns.
Guns and chainsaws are perfectly safe......as long as you never forget how frickin dangerous they are.

I'm a gun loony. No apologies.

But I wish gun owners were as well trained as the arborists that are on this site.

Training and know your limits.

 

[BRT]

If we lost as many people in the workplace [proportionally] to guns I wonder...would there be as much or less of an uproar?

Okay Tom, if that's the criteria, care to guess how many died in DUIs last year? Almost 30 people every day! Hear anyone calling for controlling who can & cannot have alcohol? Nope--21: that's the requirement.

Again, gun control is not about the government protecting people, it is about controlling them. Dollar for dollar spent, it's a no-brainer--you go after the alcohol.

Additionally, The New York Times noted this statistic: "More than 60 percent of people in this country who die from guns die by suicide." This little fact is the contributing factor to Treebing's statistic that "you carrying a gun around means that you and those in your home have a higher statistical chance of dying by a gunshot wound than someone who doesn't carry a gun." So, Treebing--If you don't try to kill yourself with that gun you have in your home--statistically, you've got much better chances of living .

 

[jabezkin]

As to suicide........Japan has approximately double our rate.
And guns are almost nonexistent.
No guns wouldn't change much in that camp.

 

[Tom Dunlap]

I'm going to keep alcohol deaths and control out of this thread. It's already bouncing enough.

 

[Richard Mumford-yoyoman]

It's a hopeless debate.

 

[BRT]

Dead is dead.
We, assuming that the thread participants are arborists, work in a dangerous profession. We are required to follow all sorts of rules, regulations and professional best practices. Equipment and practices are changed when we realize that they are leading to injuries and death.
If we lost as many people in the workplace [proportionally] to guns I wonder...would there be as much or less of an uproar?

I'm going to keep alcohol deaths and control out of this thread. It's already bouncing enough.

It's your forum. My conclusion was that you were comparing death tallies of other causes (workplace fatalities) to deaths caused by guns?

 

[Richard Mumford-yoyoman]

Question, I know the license requirements/restictions for driving a motor vehicle concerning many things especially alcohol. Specifically, what are they for firearms?
Better yet, compare even ownership of a car to that of a gun, both having legitimate uses and potentially fatal consequences to others.

 

[BRT]

Question, I know the license requirements/restictions for driving a motor vehicle concerning many things especially alcohol. Specifically, what are they for firearms?
Better yet, compare even ownership of a car to that of a gun, both having legitimate uses and potentially fatal consequences to others.

Ah, ah, ah--Tom doesn't want to create anymore "bounce"--remember?

 

[BRT]

Question, I know the license requirements/restictions for driving a motor vehicle concerning many things especially alcohol. Specifically, what are they for firearms?
Better yet, compare even ownership of a car to that of a gun, both having legitimate uses and potentially fatal consequences to others.

Oh, wait--he liked your post--so maybe it's okay to "bounce", so long as it is to the left.

https://www.atf.gov/file/58686/download

243 pages of Federal Firearms Regulations. Now, how many people do you know who drive a car? Everyone over 17, correct!? Do they have to abide by 243 pages of regs? NO!

 

[Tuebor]

Drivers in Michigan have to abide by 338 pages of regulations.

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/mcl/pdf/mcl-act-300-of-1949.pdf

 

[Richard Mumford-yoyoman]

Oh, wait--he liked your post--so maybe it's okay to "bounce", so long as it is to the left.

https://www.atf.gov/file/58686/download

243 pages of Federal Firearms Regulations. Now, how many people do you know who drive a car? Everyone over 17, correct!? Do they have to abide by 243 pages of regs? NO!

Never mind, I ask a question and you throw a 243 page book at me. I suppose I could throw back a few thousand pages of vehicle code and drivers licensing regulations................like I said.............hopeless discussion.

 

[BRT]

Never mind, I ask a question and you throw a 243 page book at me. I suppose I could throw back a few thousand pages of vehicle code and drivers licensing regulations................like I said.............hopeless discussion.

Tuebor just cited a 338 pp regulation for the state of Michigan.

I pointed to the Federal Firearms Regs--I could pull VA state firearms requirements up as well I guess. But that's not the point. In a previous post I thought you weren't certain if guns were regulated--clearly that is not the case.