Fu*%face Von Clownstick

He was found guilty of inciting and supporting an insurrection during his 2nd impeachment. He just wasn't punished for the crime.

On the other hand, my fear is that the position or title of "President" is not specifically mentioned in the Amendment.
No person shall...hold any office...under the United States...who, having previously taken an oath...to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same.

There are a lot of other words in there, but these are the important ones.
 
No person shall...hold any office...under the United States...who, having previously taken an oath...to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same.

There are a lot of other words in there, but these are the important ones.
I will point out that for each of those ellipses you added, trump's lawyers will make a technical argument.
 
Just saw this, neither here nor there…. but credit where it’s due: he’s following the law as it currently stands in AZ, despite his party affiliation.

 
No person shall...hold any office...under the United States...who, having previously taken an oath...to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same.

There are a lot of other words in there, but these are the important ones.
One problem with all of this is, even when found guilty of insurrection under the 14th amendment, enforcement of it lies solely with Congress, per the Enforcement Acts. If Congress does not take action against him; it is all mute.
 
Like I said, I would expect at least a conviction on the charge of insurrection to be judged to have participated in one. Gotta be careful when playing these games. What if Repubs solidify power someday and decide that there is ample proof that Biden took money/bribes from the Chinese in exchange for influence? Is that providing aid to an enemy, tantamount to insurrection? Slippery slope.

Who the hell gets to define what an insurrection is? Lots of people would say Biden is subverting our national interests by “disappearing” our southern border. Can we jail him for life now? How about just DQ’ing him from the next election? I don’t think so.
 
If Congress does not take action against him;

THe next day to celebrate is Incarceration Day. We are in for a hard slog until that day.
How about just DQ’ing him from the next election?

Bucknut,

Your comments are on possibilities in the future. My question is more about the issue at hand...January 6.
 
Like I said, I would expect at least a conviction on the charge of insurrection to be judged to have participated in one. . .
Trump directly incited the attack on the Capital. The whole thing happened because of him and his instructions to the crowd to 'stop the steal'. You don't consider that participating materially in what happened? Trump is directly responsible for all the damage and at least one, possibly three, deaths resulting from that day's shameful events. And what the hell does Biden or his dealings have to do with it? Sure, if Biden is guilty of something, he should answer for it. That has nothing to do with Trump finally having to answer for his multiple crimes.
 
I just wanna put it out there @Bucknut, that I would love to have Biden disqualified from the next election. I feel like anyone who makes promises to get elected only to turn around and break them immediately should at minimum be disqualified from running for any office again.
John Oliver has several episodes detailing Biden's shittiness, and he’s a leftist who encouraged people to vote for the con man in blue.
I am pretty sure that we’d be doing better if we would just pick our politicians basically the same way we pick a jury.
 
I just wanna put it out there @Bucknut, that I would love to have Biden disqualified from the next election. I feel like anyone who makes promises to get elected only to turn around and break them immediately should at minimum be disqualified from running for any office again.
John Oliver has several episodes detailing Biden's shittiness, and he’s a leftist who encouraged people to vote for the con man in blue.
I am pretty sure that we’d be doing better if we would just pick our politicians basically the same way we pick a jury.
I wonder what Native Americans were talking about when settlers came into their country back then ... As a immigrant and growing up with them , working with immigrants, asylum seekers , I would like to see at least Dreamers and their families and illegals who were already in this country living in states for more than 10 years with out serious felonious crimes charges in this country and home countries should be able to be US citizen immediately. I've seen and had witnessed so many people living under severe poverty and daily hardships with inhumane treatments . Being enslaved with illegal wages that ain't right . I was an certified mechanic. I was making $1500 a month cash without tax and hourly wages with tax on top on that. Those guys were working more hours and live in a shop with $400 a week. Doing basically samething I did . Hard , long , dirty and unhealthy very hazardous works in long term effects. I've seen 3 co workers baby came out with deformities ...
Without them I couldn't live like I did and so as my sneaky shop owner. I don't know who to blame but it wasn't right. They had no health insurance , no food stamps, no social security benefits, nothing. I've heard many b.s. story about immigrants are getting social security benefits ... Most of them are completely lies.
One day, one of them lost a finger by dropping heavy engines on hand and lost a finger. If I were him I could get at least $30,000 for one finger from shops insurance policy . But he was simply fired on a spot. No injury lawyer, no lumpsum settlement check . Absolutely Nothing. Zero , Nada. Zip....
He Just got evaporated next day. Few days later the owner of the car came in and picked up his car with happy face ... as if Nothing happened . But his engine swap costed one family man's finger and everlasting disableness under cheapest labor cost and basically , being put in a cage to living inside of shop like monkeys or guard dogs ... Inhaling brakes shoe plates dusts , smell of fuels , industrial solvents 24 /7 even while they sleeps in shop ... they can't even rent any house or room with that wages and no credit history in this country.. our shop owner doesn't even provide nitro groves to them and they are handing everything with bare hands all dirty with used oils and they eat lunch with same hands... No hand grease off soaps are provided to them.
It made me sick and same time think very very hard about it's situation that we are facing right now even with my little mind . I'm not blaming anyone but that isn't what America it should be . The America that I know would not act like this. We had a Grace and beautiful souls that we all cherish each others.
My America had a heart of that movie Superman . Brave, Smart not sneaky , Strength , Righteous, Mercy , Love ...
Now ? It looks like Lex Luther or Biff Tennen from movie back to the future took over this America to be evil ...and got used to it as normal.
Trump should have not build that meaningless walls and stupid real I.D. b.s. . Texas river Killer border bouys?? C'mon.... They all aren't enemy soldiers but regular citizens from somewhere !
Instead , he should have charge penalty fees for crossing borders like $30,000 each person to pay off without any interests with instalments and made them come out from shadows to be documented and provide a immigrants card & numbers so they can work legally immediately according with their set of own abilities . After one paid off it's penalty of $30,000 then they should be put into a line of legal citizenship processes. At beginning they get being documented we should start process background check in both countries to see whether he or she had committed serious crimes or what not in a past . If they find out anything then deport them ASAP with out hesitations and no return . If they don't have immigrants card or memorized by heart it's numbers then local police can check with computer records then deport them immediately. Soon or later , officers gonna stops everyone on streets anyway legal or illegal citizens or not anyway . And at that moment , officer can weed out old illegal immigrants or new comer illegal immigrants just had cross the border or what not. No need of border walls for him to gain only for his umbrella construction companys benefits.
300 to 500 million undocumented immigrants x $30, 000 with official immigrants cards ?? And local police officers can coordinate with immigration Agents computer records and can process it's deportations immediately and can enforce federal laws into states ? That's much much smarter than watching this cruel treatment cycles & that stupid boarder wall that has no effect to begin with.
He used our agendas and encouraged hates so he can get elected and can pocket for it's his personal gains. And let Tax payers to pay for it all .
Shallow, man. Too shallow.
 
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Buck is trying to practice law here on the Buzz, but unfortunately he has neither the facts nor the law on his side
Nope. Not trying to practice law. Can’t stand lawyers, excepting a few friends and the one I’m married to. Actually, to be more precise, I can’t stand “the law” sometimes. Example:


What really turned me off was that it truly doesn’t matter if you have the law or the facts on your side. All you really need is the judge on your side.
 

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