Guilty in the court of law and guilty in the court of public opinion are different things. I think Trump is lower than the discharge that comes out of my dog's ass after a meal of bacon grease and turkey giblets, but this case is a stretch at best. Unfortunately.
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Bucknut
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Fair enough. Except next week some rabid Republican prosecutor in, I don’t know, Des Moines (who ran on the promise of “getting” Biden) could indict him for God knows what. Indictments are soooo easy. And then we’re really off to the races at the Banana Republic Olympics. Be better to avoid that and just not elect him again, right? (Talking about Trump)
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You would hope that America would be smart enough to not put Donald back in the Whitehouse, but anything is possible.
How do you feel about the POTUS sitting in the Oval Office committing 34 misdemeanor crimes as he falsifies business records in an attempt to squash a damaging story. Where do we as a nation draw the fucking line. How much should our leaders and elites be able to get away with.. I myself say nothing. Treat ‘em like the rest of us regardless of which side of the aisle they are on.
And if a state prosecutor somewhere has evidence that Biden committed crimes in his jurisdiction he has a duty to do his job and hold Biden accountable.
How do you feel about the POTUS sitting in the Oval Office committing 34 misdemeanor crimes as he falsifies business records in an attempt to squash a damaging story. Where do we as a nation draw the fucking line. How much should our leaders and elites be able to get away with.. I myself say nothing. Treat ‘em like the rest of us regardless of which side of the aisle they are on.
And if a state prosecutor somewhere has evidence that Biden committed crimes in his jurisdiction he has a duty to do his job and hold Biden accountable.
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Bucknut
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I agree in principle, except at that level they’re all guilty of something for an ambitious enough prosecutor. Just as an example, a Republican prosecutor could absolutely have indicted Hilllary on any number of charges a few years ago. Doesn’t mean he/she could prove them, or even that they’re legit, but some damage would have been done. Not a good look when talking about Presidential level figures. It really should be airtight and head smackingly obvious when we accuse them of crimes. So far, this isn’t.
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How do you know?
No one has shown the public the evidence as of yet. You and those like you are assuming a lot. I keep hearing weak case coming from people, but those people, along with the rest of us have zero clue what evidence has been presented to the Grand Jury.
All you are going by is things you have heard from people who don't know either.
Why doesn't everybody chill out for a while and wait until the case has come to trial and see what the facts are as to how strong a case it is.
You are the one with the law degree so your opinion on the merits of this case holds a lot more weight than the rest of the riff raff around here.
I know you missed the sarcasm, but you're welcome. My point has been confirmed. Lol
That is the best strategy - at the ballot box, not by using/hacking the courts to achieve your political objectives and debasing the legal system. You did it once, so do it again. Or did you make so many people mad now (by bringing this case) you're afraid you'll loose? But please, whatever you do, get someone other than Joe. He's a moron.
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It feels a little better than POTUS blowing his load on an intern's blue dress. But, you know, potato tomato...<shrug>
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I also find it interesting that you have issues with Bill Clinton’s sexual improprieties, but you seem to be fine with Donny’s.
Blowin‘ a load in an interns blue dress is not a crime. falsifying business document in the state of New York Is.
I also find it interesting that you have issues with Bill Clinton’s sexual improprieties, but you seem to be fine with Donny’s.
I never said that. Was just commenting on your question about how it feels when POTUS is in DC and somehow making bookkeeping entries in NY. So I gave you an answer to your query. Did you not ask the question?
Talking out of your ass again buddy...We're done here. tata.
Before you go, do you mind if I get this quote printed and framed? It has brought me great laughter. tata!
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Strange I thought you were the BlueAnon shaman and would know... Here is a little sample, (They think that "white supremacy" is what's destroying Portland and similar cities and that Antifa is really the Proud Boys pretending to be leftists in a disinformation campaign. #BlueAnon)
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Given that q anon is such an utter embarrassment for the trumpers its kinda funny that y'all would try to rebrand it in your favor.
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Don't be mad, you would have figured it out sooner or later
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I think they call it humor thing(was a meme that grew legs then got censored)
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Hillary and the FBI would know about that! Funny how Bragg's is doing exactly what he is accusing Trump of doing,
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Consolidated Laws of New York
CHAPTER 40 Penal
PART 3 Specific Offenses
TITLE K Offenses Involving Fraud
ARTICLE 175 Offenses Involving False Written Statements
SECTION 175.10 Falsifying business records in the first degree.
A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree
when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second
degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit
another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.
Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony.
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Bucknut
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I’m aware of 175. It’s only a felony if, as above, there is intent to commit another crime. It’s the OTHER CRIME I’m a tad curious about. It has to be federal, since NY state statute of limitations is 5 years for a felony of this type and it’s been 8 years.
You don’t know because Bragg won’t say. He has reasons, likely related to double jeopardy. But it could be and will be argued that this indictment is insufficient on its face since it simply omits the necessary underlying crime.
Edit: after some quick Google-fu I found this:
So if the “other crime” is NY state election law then the statute has run. In certain circumstances the statute can be extended or “tolled”- like if Trump was continuously out of the state. No doubt prosecution will try this if necessary.
If it’s federal election law then this is novel territory. As I said above, I’ve never heard of a “state federal” charge. Especially one that the federal government has not charged him with! Borders on the absurd.
But I’m no expert. Alan Dershowitz thinks he will be convicted, such is the hatred in Manhattan for the man.
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