Fu*%face Von Clownstick

Pence has to go too. Think about trump's personal friends and industry buddies he appointed to the entire Cabinet as well, including especially the policies they enacted, they go too. Laws would need restoring without delay. Career scientists return. Wind and sun get back on the table, protected waters and skies.
No more federal land sales or drilling or fracking or pipelines and coal. Renewable, to power completely, science and industry together, real jobs not yearly lotteries or no health care.
The fundamentalist Christian right should keep their religion to themselves, like radical Muslims should too, and let real problems and real people work together to solve all the hateful, destructive shit the aforementioned caused. Most pressing, the shifting beyond liveable...earth.
 
Bucknut said:
You don't see the irony, do you?
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What I see is hypocrisy... if you run your entire campaign on family values and pro-life rhetoric, then go after B.J. Bill for being an immoral sloth... then you shouldn't have a metric fuckton of skeletons in your own closet that involve the same behavior, or worse. Like Randall Tobias going on and on about how the US should stop humanitarian funding of countries where prostitution is legal, but turns out to be a regular customer of "DC Madam" Deborah Palfrey. Or good, old Ed Schrock who ran on an anti-gay platform and supported anti-gay legislation... but gets caught on tape trying to buy peckerwood from a male prostitute. Or Larry Craig the big time anti-gay who gets arrested for gay sex in an airport bathroom. Or Scott Desjarlais the Pro-Life advocate who, it turns out, made his ex-wife get two abortions and tried to pressure his patient/mistress into having one. If she hadn't recorded it all, it never would have come out. At sentencing, he admitted to at least six other affairs, many of them with patients (he was a doctor before he got into politics). Or the really staunch Family Values and Abstinence dude, Mark Souder, who had an affair with a female staffer. Or Blake Farenthold, who campaigned on Family Values and then used $84,000 of the taxpayer's money to settle a sexual harassment suit. Or Pat Meehan, Joe Barton, Herman Cain, Vance McAllister, Tim Murphy, Roy Moore, Dan Burton, Helen Chenoweth, Henry Hyde, Robert Packwood, Bob Barr, Robert Livingston, Pete Domenci, Steven LaTourette, David Vitter, John Ensign or countless other Republicans who said, "Impeach Bill!" or "Family Values!" or "Bill should resign!" and the worst of them all, Dennis Hastert... $3.5 million to quash the skeletons in his closet, wasted.. at sentencing, he admits to molesting boys for years when he was a high school wrestling coach.

Bill Clinton didn't try to impeach anyone for having affairs... all of these people either tried to impeach him, or publicly badmouthed him for it. That's hypocrisy.
 
I agree 100%.

I trust you know I can compile a similar list. This really gets us nowhere but it makes us all feel better.
 
JeffGu said:
What I see is hypocrisy... if you run your entire campaign on family values and pro-life rhetoric, then go after B.J. Bill for being an immoral sloth... then you shouldn't have a metric fuckton of skeletons in your own closet that involve the same behavior, or worse. Like Randall Tobias going on and on about how the US should stop humanitarian funding of countries where prostitution is legal, but turns out to be a regular customer of "DC Madam" Deborah Palfrey. Or good, old Ed Schrock who ran on an anti-gay platform and supported anti-gay legislation... but gets caught on tape trying to buy peckerwood from a male prostitute. Or Larry Craig the big time anti-gay who gets arrested for gay sex in an airport bathroom. Or Scott Desjarlais the Pro-Life advocate who, it turns out, made his ex-wife get two abortions and tried to pressure his patient/mistress into having one. If she hadn't recorded it all, it never would have come out. At sentencing, he admitted to at least six other affairs, many of them with patients (he was a doctor before he got into politics). Or the really staunch Family Values and Abstinence dude, Mark Souder, who had an affair with a female staffer. Or Blake Farenthold, who campaigned on Family Values and then used $84,000 of the taxpayer's money to settle a sexual harassment suit. Or Pat Meehan, Joe Barton, Herman Cain, Vance McAllister, Tim Murphy, Roy Moore, Dan Burton, Helen Chenoweth, Henry Hyde, Robert Packwood, Bob Barr, Robert Livingston, Pete Domenci, Steven LaTourette, David Vitter, John Ensign or countless other Republicans who said, "Impeach Bill!" or "Family Values!" or "Bill should resign!" and the worst of them all, Dennis Hastert... $3.5 million to quash the skeletons in his closet, wasted.. at sentencing, he admits to molesting boys for years when he was a high school wrestling coach.

Bill Clinton didn't try to impeach anyone for having affairs... all of these people either tried to impeach him, or publicly badmouthed him for it. That's hypocrisy.
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Singin' on Sunday will save you from what you did all week.

Now contribute to my...
 
evo said:
impeachment is great and all, but what about the other guy? Thats when the fundamentalists will start yammering hard.
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What do we do if Mueller shows us that the Trump Team did in fact conspire with the Russian? Pence would also have to go? The whole administration would have to go?
If this was a sport the cheating team would have to forfeit the game to the other team (Clinton).
 
rico said:
What do we do if Mueller shows us that the Trump Team did in fact conspire with the Russian? Pence would also have to go? The whole administration would have to go?
If this was a sport the cheating team would have to forfeit the game to the other team (Clinton).
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I have no idea! Shit sure as hell would get interesting.. I have very little faith in higher government. I just know the new normal is chaos and not sustainable.
 
oakwilt said:
Pence has to go too. Think about trump's personal friends and industry buddies he appointed to the entire Cabinet as well, including especially the policies they enacted, they go too. Laws would need restoring without delay. Career scientists return. Wind and sun get back on the table, protected waters and skies.
No more federal land sales or drilling or fracking or pipelines and coal. Renewable, to power completely, science and industry together, real jobs not yearly lotteries or no health care.
The fundamentalist Christian right should keep their religion to themselves, like radical Muslims should too, and let real problems and real people work together to solve all the hateful, destructive shit the aforementioned caused. Most pressing, the shifting beyond liveable...earth.
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I agree with what you say here wilt , our dollar bills say in God we trust. What the hec do you make of that? What are fundamental Christian rights In your opinion?
 
Treetopflyer said:
I agree with what you say here wilt , our dollar bills say in God we trust. What the hec do you make of that? What are fundamental Christian rights In your opinion?
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I recall Jonestown in '78. David Koresh in what, '83?

The original witch hunts, the Scarlet letter, the Puritans and Pilgrims, Oral Roberts, Jim Baker, etc. etc.

I'll grant them the right to kill themselves but family members too? Keep your beliefs as far from governing bodies as possible. You have no rights in that regard. Shame on you.
 
oakwilt said:
And it's not worth it spending any time responding to Bucknut.
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Agree. It takes way too much effort. And rational thought.
oakwilt said:
Keep your beliefs as far from governing bodies as possible. You have no rights in that regard.
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I generally agree with this. But please don't pretend your secularism isn't every bit as rabid and corrosive as any religious example you can cite. Leftism is a religion. Convinces people like you that "rounding people up" because you disagree with them is ok. After all, if guys like me don't agree with you, then I guess we asked for the "bloody and severe" treatment.

So typically inclusive and tolerant of you. Not at all like a religious zealot.
 
oakwilt said:
I recall Jonestown in '78. David Koresh in what, '83?

The original witch hunts, the Scarlet letter, the Puritans and Pilgrims, Oral Roberts, Jim Baker, etc. etc.

I'll grant them the right to kill themselves but family members too? Keep your beliefs as far from governing bodies as possible. You have no rights in that regard. Shame on you.
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Shame on me sarge! No rights! Your right!
 
Other vapid idiots?

Wasn't the speech he spewed so much as it was his core supporters standing there, sopping it up like 200lb feeder pigs on oxycontin that got to me.
 
Makes the Rev Jim Jones and his believers seem normal. Only they had Jesus scruples and bible verses and sang hymns. Those idiots have AR-15s and judgement calls on who's going to live and who's going to die. I find comfort in knowing that practiced bravado and tough demeanor is the first to bolt when the shit starts getting deep quick.
 
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