Fu*%face Von Clownstick

treegongfu said:
TC, my apologies, people actually buy that nonsense so I thought you were in ernest.

Norcal, they indicted a clickbait farm in Russia who never will stand trial and could never be convicted.
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Ummm....selectively you have forgot about 4 Americans who have worked for the Trump campaign or administration and who have been caught lying - 3 have pled guilty - all have ties with Russia and foreign money - selling their influence to the highest bidder.

Who were they? - his fing campaign manager (Manafort), his fing NSA adviser (Flynn), and Gates (an aide and assistant for the transition).

The admission of guilt is to lesser charges as long as they cooperate - if they do not cooperate fully, aka more lying and cover up, they will receive total charges beyond just lying to agents.

The picture to this point is money laundering, selling influence to foreign governments, and conspiracy to aid foreign giver.

Lock her up!

Who is going to pay for the wall - Mexico!

Then there is a whole raft of other insanity that doesn't even have breathing room below T-bag - using federal funds to travel and go on posh vacations, using campaign money to hush porn stars, meeting with foreign investors to secure funding for personal businesses, lack of security clearances for top aides, using HUD money to buy a decent $5,000 chair, going to Wimbledon on the tax payer dime, Melania's bestie getting a 26 million dollar pay out doing nothing at the innaguration, on and on and on.

But.....Lock Her Up!

Who is going to pay for the wall - Mexico!

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Wow. Yeah, that. Want to keep going?

The Cabinet appointments and the damage they installed at every agency. EPA, Energy, Interior, HomeSec, all of them. By trump, yessired by Congress. The GOP.
Round-up them all, restructure. Prosecute. Jail.
The policies torn up and returned to the law. Laws made by the people, not the mob and Bozo the Clown. Annoited by God?
Its going to change.
 
Why haven't I seen any trump stickers or signs anywhere?

The posts and retweets though, they'll be around forever. Even history's going to change now, who gets to write it and what it's going to say.
 
The teachers in West Virginia met the teachers in Oklahoma!

Funny they all concluded the same thing: statehouse and gov. all ticketed in GOP to cut public funding across the board, giving energy tax credits instead. The breaking point of public education is a policy decision of the far right. Christian schools instead. Values.
Indictments. Whores and golden showers, deals with the enemy.
 
This is delicious. 3 more years of this. Maybe 7. Good times.

What on earth are you going to do when he gets reelected @oakwilt? You haven't left much room to escalate your rhetoric.

(I know, I know. He's gonna be impeached. Like Bubba.)
 
Do you get and process all your information, awareness, and learning then applying to life's demands...that way?

Just checking. It's important to understand. No hard feelings.
 
You talk a lot about family values. Either side can make the other look bad in this department:

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Quick- what's the difference between these two guys? One is a predatory rapist, and the other one is a film producer.

Well, I guess they are both pretty rapey when it gets down to it, but you get the point. ;)

Please don't make me search Google for Carlos Danger pics.
 
No one ever answers this question - will you still support him if they find he broke the law?

Instead I get - what aboutism...like pictures of Bill with Weinstein...

If they don't find he (Trump) didn't break the law, I'll eat my lunch and say - we'll, he shouldn't be impeached. He is a shit head of state - but he is within the law.

What values do you stand for Buck and Treegong?

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NorCalBrock said:
No one ever answers this question - will you still support him if they find he broke the law?
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Depends: which law did he break, how much and what type of proof do they have, and do the people trust the finders of fact and the process?

Clearly, they will find that he broke some law. Again, this is how the special prosecutor justifies his own existence. If he spent 18 months and tens of millions of dollars on an investigation that produced literally nothing, he would make himself a laughing stock. This will not happen.

Problem is, Mueller could spend that much time investigating any one of us and he would absolutely find evidence of wrongdoing. One of their tricks is to sit you down for eight hour interviews. Then they'll come back and do another eight hours two months later. Then They'll come back again. And then they will compare notes and anything that isn't a perfect match is suddenly evidence of perjury.

And speaking of still supporting someone who broke the law, the Democrat party not only defended Bubba after his impeachment, they adored him. He was the unquestioned leader of the party and the movement for many years after he was a credibly accused rapist. Just one example.

There is no moral high ground for either side here.
 
Lets add UAE dirty money to the list - what will the haters of Islam say - we'll, everybody does it

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Bucknut said:
Depends: which law did he break, how much and what type of proof do they have, and do the people trust the finders of fact and the process?

Clearly, they will find that he broke some law. Again, this is how the special prosecutor justifies his own existence. If he spent 18 months and tens of millions of dollars on an investigation that produced literally nothing, he would make himself a laughing stock. This will not happen.

Problem is, Mueller could spend that much time investigating any one of us and he would absolutely find evidence of wrongdoing. One of their tricks is to sit you down for eight hour interviews. Then they'll come back and do another eight hours two months later. Then They'll come back again. And then they will compare notes and anything that isn't a perfect match is suddenly evidence of perjury.

And speaking of still supporting someone who broke the law, the Democrat party not only defended Bubba after his impeachment, they adored him. He was the unquestioned leader of the party and the movement for many years after he was a credibly accused rapist. Just one example.

There is no moral high ground for either side here.
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In a nutshell, yes - you'll support him.

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Sounds like a victim of domestic violence refusing to admit their partner is a dirt bag, wont press charges and is still willing to put money on their books even when they go to prison then take them back in when they are released - the excuse - if the cops didn't get involved And hadn't showed up, my beatings arent always that bad, i deserve it, they are going to change, they arent always like that, they had a terrible childhood.

I'm glad there are organizations, good cops, and good prosecutors to do what is right when people are blinded by attachment.

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Sure, except the cops and prosecutors are only "good" when they're going after your enemies right?

Right.
 
I don't adore him? Im not from Massachusates - I don't adore anyone who has sexually assaulted a woman. Good riddance to all the politicians who have lost their jobs.

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You asked if I would support Trump if he is found to have broken the law.

I'm just giving you examples of politicians that your party supported for decades even though they knowingly broke the law.
 
Truth is the country's broken. We are actually at the point where I have zero faith in Meuller or his investigation.

Everything is hyper-partisan. Neither side trusts the other. I think it's as bad now as it has ever been in this country's modern history. I don't think it's fixable anymore.
 
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