Fu*%face Von Clownstick

[rico]

No

This is what I don’t understand about Trump haters. I don’t like him because of his policies which are moderate at best. Who cares what he’s like as a person he’s just like the rest of them. He just has the vocabulary of an 8 year old. Trump haters are all offended by his mean words but are perfectly fine with chopping off children’s genitals or leaving our border wide open to drugs and terrorists as long as you talk about it nicely.


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This is what I don’t understand about Trump haters. I don’t like him because of his policies which are moderate at best. Who cares what he’s like as a person he’s just like the rest of them. He just has the vocabulary of an 8 year old. Trump haters are all offended by his mean words but are perfectly fine with chopping off children’s genitals or leaving our border wide open to drugs and terrorists as long as you talk about it nicely.


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Mean words? Fucking please. “They are poisoning the blood of our country” is possibly the ugliest moment in US presidential history, and a low for even Trump. It harkens back to the days of Adolph Hilter and all the other genocidal fucking maniacs throughout history. Its extremely dangerous dog whistle bullshit that can and will get people hurt and killed.

And last time I checked the largest terrorist threat to American citizens is an angry white dude with an AR.

 

[Bucknut]

And last time I checked the largest terrorist threat to American citizens is an angry white dude with an AR.

You should check more often. And maybe look into other sources for your news.

(Say, you think there’s any chance that a couple of the thousands of military age men Biden’s letting in every day might not love our country and do something horrible? Almost like it would be better to have a border or some system of selecting who we let in….)

 

[bobs yeruncle]

I don't want to further derail this thread, but I do have some simple responses regarding the viability of the communist ethos. If anyone cares to actually entertain a legitimate further discussion of the subject, please feel free to DM me or start a separate thread and I'll jump right in. I think the response to my ideas is short sighted to say the least.

let's put together a capital by karl marx book club thread, one chapter a week. hope you suckers are ready to discuss the price of a yard of linen

 

[Matias]

let's put together a capital by karl marx book club thread, one chapter a week. hope you suckers are ready to discuss the price of a yard of linen

I'm preparing a first post to start a thread, but I feel it appropriate to point out here that any governing document that old comes from a different time, and even our own Constitution has had to be modified periodically to keep up to date with what we've learned as a society.

 

[bobs yeruncle]

I've read it before and I find living in the continuing era of capitalism marx's insights into its nature and function have only become more trenchant, not less. but ill save it for the thread

 

[rico]

You should check more often. And maybe look into other sources for your news.

(Say, you think there’s any chance that a couple of the thousands of military age men Biden’s letting in every day might not love our country and do something horrible? Almost like it would be better to have a border or some system of selecting who we let in….)

Nonsense. The data post 9/11 is very clear. A majority of the terrorism being perpetrated on American soil is homegrown, with white supremacists, anti-government extremists, anti-abortion wing nuts, and the likes leading the way. I know this just doesn’t work out with your narrative, but you are far more likely to die from choking on a chicken bone than to be taken out by a jihadist.

 

[data farm 26]

The thousands of military aged men thing is baffling to me, been hearing that for many years too. There was a local tree guy with his shop by the railroad tracks. He claimed that there were shipping containers in the yard there with Chinese soldiers in them, living in the containers waiting for invasion orders. Makes you wonder what kind of crazy shit everyday people are walking around and thinking about.

Imagine living everyday thinking that there was an invasion force sneaking in this very moment, swimming across the Rio Grande.... then what? Where do they go? What's the plan? How do they keep the soldiers from falling for the average pitfalls of American life like weed, booze, prostitutes and scratch tickets?

 

[Bucknut]

We’re very obviously being invaded. There is no border. Poor people will naturally flood to where there is less poverty and more opportunity. But we can only absorb so many. Can we at least agree that there is a limit (physically and economically) to how many we can take? And that functional countries have borders?

The real problem is that so few of those who are arriving seem to want to be American. They want to be Mexicans or Venezuelans or Chinese IN America. We’ve gone from the melting pot to a bowl of granola. Everybody living in their own little cluster. Recipe for disaster.

 

[bobs yeruncle]

How is that any different from being Irish or Italian or German in America

 

[data farm 26]

We’re very obviously being invaded. There is no border. Poor people will naturally flood to where there is less poverty and more opportunity. But we can only absorb so many. Can we at least agree that there is a limit (physically and economically) to how many we can take? And that functional countries have borders?

The real problem is that so few of those who are arriving seem to want to be American. They want to be Mexicans or Venezuelans or Chinese IN America. We’ve gone from the melting pot to a bowl of granola. Everybody living in their own little cluster. Recipe for disaster.

If this is the case, why mention the military aged men specifically?

What are you basing this claim on? For one, what does "want to be American" mean? Also, have you met these people and they've told you that they don't want to be American?

 

[data farm 26]

How is that any different from being Irish or Italian or German in America

I'm going to take a guess here.... not white?

 

[Bucknut]

How is that any different from being Irish or Italian or German in America

They (historically) came here LEGALLY. They crossed an ocean to BE American, not to be an Irishman IN America. A fantastic first step toward proving you want to be an American would be to respect our laws (insomuch as they even exist anymore).

If any of those you mention come in illegally across the southern border, they are no different than any other illegal migrant. Why? How are they different in your mind?

 

[Bucknut]

I'm going to take a guess here.... not white?

You got me. Can’t believe I’ve been outed.

Or it could be that more Mexicans tend to cross our “border” from……Mexico. I haven’t noticed tens of thousands of Germans coming up from Venezuela. Have you?

 

[Matias]

 

[bobs yeruncle]

They (historically) came here LEGALLY. They crossed an ocean to BE American, not to be an Irishman IN America. A fantastic first step toward proving you want to be an American would be to respect our laws (insomuch as they even exist anymore).

If any of those you mention come in illegally across the southern border, they are no different than any other illegal migrant. Why? How are they different in your mind?

People come for economic opportunity, its what drove immigration from those countries in the 19th century and what drives immigration now. I expect legally speaking, the process of immigration and naturalization is more complicated, more time-consuming and more expensive now compared to the 19th century. Chinese workers certainly found that out when their ability to legally immigrate was ended in 1882.

Is the hazard of immigration that economic opportunity no longer exists in America?

 

[bobs yeruncle]

Granted if Trump wins maybe you will get Chinese Exclusion Act 2.0

 

[rico]

We’re very obviously being invaded. There is no border. Poor people will naturally flood to where there is less poverty and more opportunity. But we can only absorb so many. Can we at least agree that there is a limit (physically and economically) to how many we can take? And that functional countries have borders?

The real problem is that so few of those who are arriving seem to want to be American. They want to be Mexicans or Venezuelans or Chinese IN America. We’ve gone from the melting pot to a bowl of granola. Everybody living in their own little cluster. Recipe for disaster.

While your busy sounding like a Fox News poster boy screaming about the brown vermin invading our country you might want to do a little research on overstaying visas. Once again it ain’t gonna fit your ugly narrative, but the data is clear.

 

[data farm 26]

want to be an American

I'm curious about what you mean by this and also how are you so sure that anyone does or does not "want to be an American?"

 

[Shadowscape]

If Trump were to get in for a second term, there just might be a flood of Americans crossing the border in the other direction. And they will want to be Americans in whatever country they end up in.
BE LIKE ME OR DON'T COME, has no place in civil societies.

 

[rico]

If @Bucknut and his ilk had their way I probably wouldn’t be able to enjoy my favorite rainy afternoon snack. A homemade corn tortilla fried up in coconut oil, with local butter, honey from the neighbor, pecans, and a little cinnamon on top.