Fu*%face Von Clownstick

Americans never could make a good beer.
They all preach to us to drink their beer. That is what marketing is all about. Our product is the best and the one you should be using. Beer, computers, ropes.
 
Shadowscape said:
Yep.
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No they have not changed biologically or genetically. All they have changed is their appearance. They are still xx or xy. They still can't produce a baby with the the opposite's sex organs.

It would be no different than someone switching ethnic races by use of makeup or skin pigmentation.

Adult - fine do whatever the hell you want, just don't ask me to participate in any way.

Child - is a whole other story especially since it is not a pause button.
 
Arb23 said:
Why? In our country people can (still) hold different beliefs and support (or decline to support) different causes. Nothing wrong with that.
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I happen to agree. The right has attached the term " cancel culture" to this. They rail up and down about the left doing this. But when they do it it is put in these nice gentle terms.
 
climbhightree said:
No they have not changed biologically or genetically. All they have changed is their appearance. They are still xx or xy. They still can't produce a baby with the the opposite's sex organs.

It would be no different than someone switching ethnic races by use of makeup or skin pigmentation.

Adult - fine do whatever the hell you want, just don't ask me to participate in any way.

Child - is a whole other story especially since it is not a pause button.
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Adult- fine do whatever the hell you want, just don't ask me to particpate in any way. I totally agree I just wish the religious people would adhere to this. Remember our big abortion conversation? You insisted people adhere to no abortions by supporting laws that ban them, effectively forcing people to participate in your beliefs. This is selective ideology, some would call hypocrisy.
 
Intolerance of the "other" is always based in fear, you just have to peel back a few layers and be honest with yourself to see it for what it is and figure out why you feel it. Most are incapable of enough self-reflection to get there.
Arb23 said:
As an Aussie, I can agree with you on this one point lol
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A bigger, fatter can doesn't make for a better beer(looking at you Fosters) although in my opinion it makes for a better wife. Again though, that's just my opinion. A little humor on a Friday so the vitriol displayed in this thread doesn't drag us all down!
 
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owScott said:
Adult- fine do whatever the hell you want, just don't ask me to particpate in any way. I totally agree I just wish the religious people would adhere to this. Remember our big abortion conversation? You insisted people adhere to no abortions by supporting laws that ban them, effectively forcing people to participate in your beliefs. This is selective ideology, some would call hypocrisy.
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No I pushed saving the life of a human baby that isn't getting a say in the matter. Saying a life is a life whether in the womb or out of it.

I pushed don't have sex if you don't want to risk getting pregnant. If you have sex and get pregnant well you already made your choice....and don't bring up rape etc unless you can prove that is the majority of the abortions cases.

I'm pretty sure I said in my thread above that a child is a completely different matter, which a baby is.

If the woman wants to tie her tubes, remove her womb etc to keep from getting pregnant...that is her choice go for it. If she chooses not to do things to prevent pregnancy - > she chooses to have sex - > gets pregnant - > then decides to kill the baby/child....then I have a problem with it because it is no longer just her life. She is killing/effecting an innocent.

Same with some of this transgender etc stuff...it is effecting the innocent and destroying their lives. If one believes in Santa, has imaginary friends, brain is not fully developed, vote, drink, etc - one cannot make a life altering/physical damaging decision.
 
climbhightree said:
No I pushed saving the life of a human baby that isn't getting a say in the matter. Saying a life is a life whether in the womb or out of it.

I pushed don't have sex if you don't want to risk getting pregnant. If you have sex and get pregnant well you already made your choice....and don't bring up rape etc unless you can prove that is the majority of the abortions cases.

I'm pretty sure I said in my thread above that a child is a completely different matter, which a baby is.

If the woman want to tie her tubes, remove her womb etc to keep from getting pregnant...thst is her choice go for it. If she chooses not to do things to prevent pregnancy - > she chooses to have sex - > gets pregnant - > then decides to kill the baby/child....then I have a problem with it because it is no longer just her life. She is killing/effecting an innocent.

Same with some of this transgender etc stuff...it is effecting the innocent and destroying their lives. If one believes in Santa, has imaginary friends, brain is not fully developed, vote, drink, etc-one can.not make a life altering/physical damaging decision.
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Saving the life of a human baby that isnt getting a say is the matter is an opinion. I know you fully believe your opinion is fact. I was only addressing the adult part. You here use the term "I pushed"which closely resembles "asking people to participate in your viewpoint. Once again you seems to say dont force your beliefs down my throat or ask me participate but I will force my beliefs down your throat and make you paticipate in my viewpoint. This is hypocrisy
 
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I dont wish to return to the abortion conversation, I believe we buried that. Was just pointing out the inconsistency in your opinions.
 
owScott said:
I dont wish to return to the abortion conversation, I believe we buried that. Was just pointing out the inconsistency in your opinions.
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I agree best not to drag that all up again.

I maintain I'm being pretty consistent...protect the children and the innocent in and out of the womb from being killed, maimed, or wrongly influenced into life altering physical actions via our schools, social media, doctors that just want the money, society and businesses pushing it
 
climbhightree said:
I agree best not to drag that all up again.

I maintain I'm being pretty consistent...protect the children and the innocent in and out of the womb from being killed, maimed, or wrongly influenced into life altering physical actions via our schools, social media, doctors that just want the money, society and businesses pushing it
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I am not talking about the child aspect here. I highlighted your comment specifically about adults doing what they want and not asking you to participate. You are over complicatimng my point. Let adults do what they want. Preganent women over 18 are adults. Regardless of what your opinion on their actions, no matter how much you think it is your business, stop your participating in their lives. Just as you request that others dont ask you to participate in theirs. Forced particiaption you want it or you dont? Surely you can see the contradiction.
 
owScott said:
I am not talking about the child aspect here. I highlighted your comment specifically about adults doing what they want and not asking you to participate. You are over complicatimng my point. Let adults do what they want. Preganent women over 18 are adults. Regardless of what your opinion on their actions, no matter how much you think it is your business, stop your participating in their lives. Just as you request that others dont ask you to participate in theirs. Forced particiaption you want it or you dont? Surely you can see the contradiction.
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But you are completely missing one aspect, the child/baby in the womb. I agree let the adult do and live how they want, as long as they are not directly effecting or influencing a child/baby. Or asking me to affirm/support their biological and genetic lie.

I see no difference in or out of the womb...you do. That is where we disagree.
 
Tom Dunlap said:
WAIT UP

I want everyone to lift their fingers from the keyboard and read. If you're writing about anything abortion related please think hard about including it. This isn't editorial.

The topic always snowballs and becomes a distraction.
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Sorry, wasn't trying to redebate the abortion issue. I could substitute gay marriage for abortion and make the same point. I was just pointing out contradictions. Point taken, I will move on.
 
Tom Dunlap said:
This topic always snowballs and becomes a distraction.
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I would argue that the phoney left/right paradigm that so many have bought into is the real distraction. The tribalism and ideological conformity of the so-called "left" vs. the so-called "right" is both fascinating and horrifying. The absolute hatred and vitriol that one half of the US seems to have for the other half is sad. I'm not that old, but I'm old enough to remember when people had actual optimism about the future. Before everyone and their brother started looking to the government to solve all their problems.
 
Tom Dunlap said:
There's loonies everywhere.

Easy to provide examples too. That's what was requested. Otherwise your comments sound loonie.
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Loonie is putting it politely.. transphobe bigotry is more adept.
‘Gender dysphoria’ is a shitty word for a diagnosis but it’s very real.
But I can agree that both sides of the two party system are pretty whack.. this is coming from the other box
 
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