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And you could call that man in the first set a girl if you want to. Your right. I wouldn't.
Nor would I call the two girls in the next sets men. But you can, if you want to. Your right.
But sex change does have a place for the wellbeing of some people, and the rest of us need to learn to understand that and accept it.
And anybody who boycotts a beer because of an ad are the ones I'm worried about.
 
Shadowscape said:
And you could call that man in the first set a girl if you want to. Your right. I wouldn't.
Nor would I call the two girls in the next sets men. But you can, if you want to. Your right.
But sex change does have a place for the wellbeing of some people, and the rest of us need to learn to understand that and accept it.
And anybody who boycotts a beer because of an ad are the ones I'm worried about.
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If people disagree with an advertising campaign and boycott a brand that’s their prerogative. Their money, they spend it where they like.
More fool the highly paid marketing department of the brand for their campaign.
 
Arb23 said:
Why? In our country people can (still) hold different beliefs and support (or decline to support) different causes. Nothing wrong with that.
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Nothing wrong with that if there is a good reason. The Bud Light ad didn't hurt anyone, or degrade anyone, or knock anyone. And I guess if you really want to give up drinking your favorite beverage because you didn't like who was in an ad, it is your right to do so. But it is damn weird to give up something you like because who was in the advertisement.
That is like saying, I'm not going to use Samson ropes anymore because they used Phil Silvers in one of their ads, and I don't care for Phil Silvers. I can do it, but why.
 
Shadowscape said:
But it is damn weird to give up something you like because who was in the advertisement.
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I know plenty of liberals that won't shop at Home Depot because of political donations. Happens all the time by different groups. I remember plenty of prominent politicians calling for boycotts over the last several years of various companies that don't align with their political beliefs.

Meh...Anheuser-Busch waded into the culture wars...I thought their goal was to have the biggest possible customer base...but I guess their marketing department said 'hold my beer'...they should have known better and get paid alot of $$$ to know better.
 
Shadowscape said:
Nothing wrong with that if there is a good reason. The Bud Light ad didn't hurt anyone, or degrade anyone, or knock anyone. And I guess if you really want to give up drinking your favorite beverage because you didn't like who was in an ad, it is your right to do so. But it is damn weird to give up something you like because who was in the advertisement.
That is like saying, I'm not going to use Samson ropes anymore because they used Phil Silvers in one of their ads, and I don't care for Phil Silvers. I can do it, but why.
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Plenty of other beers just as tasty that don’t try to preach to us what to think to increase sales.
 
Americans never could make a good beer.
They all preach to us to drink their beer. That is what marketing is all about. Our product is the best and the one you should be using. Beer, computers, ropes.
 
Shadowscape said:
Yep.
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No they have not changed biologically or genetically. All they have changed is their appearance. They are still xx or xy. They still can't produce a baby with the the opposite's sex organs.

It would be no different than someone switching ethnic races by use of makeup or skin pigmentation.

Adult - fine do whatever the hell you want, just don't ask me to participate in any way.

Child - is a whole other story especially since it is not a pause button.
 
Arb23 said:
Why? In our country people can (still) hold different beliefs and support (or decline to support) different causes. Nothing wrong with that.
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I happen to agree. The right has attached the term " cancel culture" to this. They rail up and down about the left doing this. But when they do it it is put in these nice gentle terms.
 
climbhightree said:
No they have not changed biologically or genetically. All they have changed is their appearance. They are still xx or xy. They still can't produce a baby with the the opposite's sex organs.

It would be no different than someone switching ethnic races by use of makeup or skin pigmentation.

Adult - fine do whatever the hell you want, just don't ask me to participate in any way.

Child - is a whole other story especially since it is not a pause button.
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Adult- fine do whatever the hell you want, just don't ask me to particpate in any way. I totally agree I just wish the religious people would adhere to this. Remember our big abortion conversation? You insisted people adhere to no abortions by supporting laws that ban them, effectively forcing people to participate in your beliefs. This is selective ideology, some would call hypocrisy.
 
Intolerance of the "other" is always based in fear, you just have to peel back a few layers and be honest with yourself to see it for what it is and figure out why you feel it. Most are incapable of enough self-reflection to get there.
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As an Aussie, I can agree with you on this one point lol
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A bigger, fatter can doesn't make for a better beer(looking at you Fosters) although in my opinion it makes for a better wife. Again though, that's just my opinion. A little humor on a Friday so the vitriol displayed in this thread doesn't drag us all down!
 
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owScott said:
Adult- fine do whatever the hell you want, just don't ask me to particpate in any way. I totally agree I just wish the religious people would adhere to this. Remember our big abortion conversation? You insisted people adhere to no abortions by supporting laws that ban them, effectively forcing people to participate in your beliefs. This is selective ideology, some would call hypocrisy.
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No I pushed saving the life of a human baby that isn't getting a say in the matter. Saying a life is a life whether in the womb or out of it.

I pushed don't have sex if you don't want to risk getting pregnant. If you have sex and get pregnant well you already made your choice....and don't bring up rape etc unless you can prove that is the majority of the abortions cases.

I'm pretty sure I said in my thread above that a child is a completely different matter, which a baby is.

If the woman wants to tie her tubes, remove her womb etc to keep from getting pregnant...that is her choice go for it. If she chooses not to do things to prevent pregnancy - > she chooses to have sex - > gets pregnant - > then decides to kill the baby/child....then I have a problem with it because it is no longer just her life. She is killing/effecting an innocent.

Same with some of this transgender etc stuff...it is effecting the innocent and destroying their lives. If one believes in Santa, has imaginary friends, brain is not fully developed, vote, drink, etc - one cannot make a life altering/physical damaging decision.
 
climbhightree said:
No I pushed saving the life of a human baby that isn't getting a say in the matter. Saying a life is a life whether in the womb or out of it.

I pushed don't have sex if you don't want to risk getting pregnant. If you have sex and get pregnant well you already made your choice....and don't bring up rape etc unless you can prove that is the majority of the abortions cases.

I'm pretty sure I said in my thread above that a child is a completely different matter, which a baby is.

If the woman want to tie her tubes, remove her womb etc to keep from getting pregnant...thst is her choice go for it. If she chooses not to do things to prevent pregnancy - > she chooses to have sex - > gets pregnant - > then decides to kill the baby/child....then I have a problem with it because it is no longer just her life. She is killing/effecting an innocent.

Same with some of this transgender etc stuff...it is effecting the innocent and destroying their lives. If one believes in Santa, has imaginary friends, brain is not fully developed, vote, drink, etc-one can.not make a life altering/physical damaging decision.
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Saving the life of a human baby that isnt getting a say is the matter is an opinion. I know you fully believe your opinion is fact. I was only addressing the adult part. You here use the term "I pushed"which closely resembles "asking people to participate in your viewpoint. Once again you seems to say dont force your beliefs down my throat or ask me participate but I will force my beliefs down your throat and make you paticipate in my viewpoint. This is hypocrisy
 
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I dont wish to return to the abortion conversation, I believe we buried that. Was just pointing out the inconsistency in your opinions.
 
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