DruidCarol
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Not exactly cogent, since there is the opening line "I've nothing against Muslims in general" and then there's that "BUT..." When I hear that kind of argument, I say to myself that everything after the "BUT" is likely to negate everything said prior to the "BUT". And you're back to painting all adherents of Islam as a threat when it is, in fact, been proven statistically, in 2015, as less deadly in America than toddlers who got a hold of a loaded gun.
As for cab driver behavior, there was a classic Michael Moore clip where an African American actor, Yaphet Kotto, repeatedly attempted to hail a cab in Manhattan without success only to have the cabbies pick up a white guy they saw standing a few feet away. The white guy was a convicted, paroled murderer (and admitted he killed someone). Read about it here: http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1999-11-17/news/9911170069_1_taxi-drivers-cabs-discrimination The guy in Leicester was punished, lost his job with the firm. It's happened in the US, too, with Muslim cabbies who don't want to transport alcohol-carrying fares as well as service dogs. Do bear in mind, America has had religious groups who want special treatment because of the issue of birth control even for people who do not adhere to their beliefs on the matter. No one has a monopoly at acting entitled (or being a jerk for that matter).
I don't see that it is for me to condemn any religion itself; I will condemn individual behavior, and your religious beliefs don't matter to me, if you're a shit excuse for a human being and refuse to feel remorse for someone you have harmed, I will condemn you. I also know enough practitioners of Islam personally to know that they do not view the jihadists who use terrorism to be truly Muslim, no more than I would hope a Christian does not believe the Ku Klux Klan is a true practitioner of Christianity, despite the religious symbolism the KKK uses.
Just accept that you are prejudiced against Muslims as your default position, and I am not prejudiced by default against any group. We don't have to agree to get along.
As for cab driver behavior, there was a classic Michael Moore clip where an African American actor, Yaphet Kotto, repeatedly attempted to hail a cab in Manhattan without success only to have the cabbies pick up a white guy they saw standing a few feet away. The white guy was a convicted, paroled murderer (and admitted he killed someone). Read about it here: http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1999-11-17/news/9911170069_1_taxi-drivers-cabs-discrimination The guy in Leicester was punished, lost his job with the firm. It's happened in the US, too, with Muslim cabbies who don't want to transport alcohol-carrying fares as well as service dogs. Do bear in mind, America has had religious groups who want special treatment because of the issue of birth control even for people who do not adhere to their beliefs on the matter. No one has a monopoly at acting entitled (or being a jerk for that matter).
I don't see that it is for me to condemn any religion itself; I will condemn individual behavior, and your religious beliefs don't matter to me, if you're a shit excuse for a human being and refuse to feel remorse for someone you have harmed, I will condemn you. I also know enough practitioners of Islam personally to know that they do not view the jihadists who use terrorism to be truly Muslim, no more than I would hope a Christian does not believe the Ku Klux Klan is a true practitioner of Christianity, despite the religious symbolism the KKK uses.
Just accept that you are prejudiced against Muslims as your default position, and I am not prejudiced by default against any group. We don't have to agree to get along.












