Fu*%face Von Clownstick

Not exactly cogent, since there is the opening line "I've nothing against Muslims in general" and then there's that "BUT..." When I hear that kind of argument, I say to myself that everything after the "BUT" is likely to negate everything said prior to the "BUT". And you're back to painting all adherents of Islam as a threat when it is, in fact, been proven statistically, in 2015, as less deadly in America than toddlers who got a hold of a loaded gun.

As for cab driver behavior, there was a classic Michael Moore clip where an African American actor, Yaphet Kotto, repeatedly attempted to hail a cab in Manhattan without success only to have the cabbies pick up a white guy they saw standing a few feet away. The white guy was a convicted, paroled murderer (and admitted he killed someone). Read about it here: http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1999-11-17/news/9911170069_1_taxi-drivers-cabs-discrimination The guy in Leicester was punished, lost his job with the firm. It's happened in the US, too, with Muslim cabbies who don't want to transport alcohol-carrying fares as well as service dogs. Do bear in mind, America has had religious groups who want special treatment because of the issue of birth control even for people who do not adhere to their beliefs on the matter. No one has a monopoly at acting entitled (or being a jerk for that matter).

I don't see that it is for me to condemn any religion itself; I will condemn individual behavior, and your religious beliefs don't matter to me, if you're a shit excuse for a human being and refuse to feel remorse for someone you have harmed, I will condemn you. I also know enough practitioners of Islam personally to know that they do not view the jihadists who use terrorism to be truly Muslim, no more than I would hope a Christian does not believe the Ku Klux Klan is a true practitioner of Christianity, despite the religious symbolism the KKK uses.

Just accept that you are prejudiced against Muslims as your default position, and I am not prejudiced by default against any group. We don't have to agree to get along.
 
Just accept that you are prejudiced against Muslims as your default position, and I am not prejudiced by default against any group. We don't have to agree to get along.

You're prejudiced against anyone with the critical faculties to observe there is a general unwillingness within many Muslim communities to accept the culture of the country they emigrated to or found asylum in. In many cases they are openly hostile to their host country.

An example from Luton, England can be seen in this video starting at 0.30.



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This is a weak stance. Why not break it down on an individual who f-ed up and made a mistake. Every culture and religion had their strong points and not so strong points. Equal rights is just that, equal. People will make mistakes and have miss understandings, I feel for the blind man with the service dog. Hell I even once almost kicked out a customer in a restaurant that I worked in, until a coworker shut me down. I was presumptuous and f-ed up. It happens. If I were Jewish and it was a pig and not a dog would it mean that I am putting my rights above the pig owners?

Evo,

You're post above is of so little significance on the whole issue it would register 'negligible' on a device that could measure the importance and relevance of posts to the discussion.

It's just another example of the usual meaningless leftist drivel that tries to pass for intellectual argument these days.

Your in good company though, Druid and freefallin are parading around here with their leftist virtue signalling like some kind of drink sodden demented bag ladies in search of redemption.


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So what to you suggest the the West do at this point?

It's probably too late for Europe. Demographic modelling suggest Muslims will be in the majority in many European countries in the coming decades. Muslim birthrates are much higher than that of native Germans and the French for example. Sharia Law is already being enshrined in UK law for certain civil cases, that's just the thin end of the wedge. All brought about by the cultural Marxist doctrine that dictates all cultures are of equal value.

Europe is crippled by political correctness. People are more afraid of being labelled a racist than they are of losing their country.

An example of Sharia Law being enshrined in the UK justice system -

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...elines-on-sharia-compliant-wills-9210682.html

For the USA? - Accept multiculturalism is a failed cultural Marxist doctrine. America is a melting pot, not a salad bowl. Multiracialism is great, it's multiculturalism that destroys the national spirit. Everyone has to at least accept some basic ground rules and the rule of law. American Law not Sharia Law.

You get the idea. I'll leave you to reflect on this footage of Birmingham, England from last year.

Enjoy your cultural enrichment.

 
I've held my tongue on the direction this thread is heading. It is clear what we have here: an ultranationalist using, in his words, 'facile' examples of how the other, which in his case is Black Muslims, is corroding and threatening his identity, degrading his civilization, his 'national spirit', and his culture.

To make it simple - he is a white supremacist. As a matter of fact, he is really pussyfooting around saying what he wants to say and for whatever reason dislikes the fact that he is a racist.

His true thoughts and emotions start to show when he dismisses Druid and Frefallin as demented bag ladies - so I can now label him a white supremacist and misogynist.

I'll also just dismiss him from here on out - we did not align with Hitler during the WWII, and I will not align with a similar ethos now.




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Couple things.....

Islam is not a race. It is a religion/ideology. Labeling someone a racist for disagreeing with an ideology is just, well..... facile. In fact, it's just like labeling someone a misogynist for the crime of disagreeing with a woman.

If by now you are unwilling to accept even the possibility that strident Islamism is a threat to western culture then you are unpersuadable. You have already stopped believing your lying eyes.

Again...... nothing to do with race. Everything to do with ideology.
 
As Sam Harris said,"The problem with religion is that it allows people to believe en masse what only idiots or lunatics could believe in isolation."

I'm a catholic, but there is an undeniable kernel of truth in that quote.
 
isnt a will yours to write up whatever arbitrary way you see fit? if someone doesnt want to give his illegitimate children money do they have too? how is that a sign of sharia taking over?
 
I've held my tongue on the direction this thread is heading. It is clear what we have here: an ultranationalist using, in his words, 'facile' examples of how the other, which in his case is Black Muslims, is corroding and threatening his identity, degrading his civilization, his 'national spirit', and his culture.

To make it simple - he is a white supremacist. As a matter of fact, he is really pussyfooting around saying what he wants to say and for whatever reason dislikes the fact that he is a racist.

His true thoughts and emotions start to show when he dismisses Druid and Frefallin as demented bag ladies - so I can now label him a white supremacist and misogynist.

I'll also just dismiss him from here on out - we did not align with Hitler during the WWII, and I will not align with a similar ethos now.




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Hysterical nonsense, calm down NorCal you sound neurotic.

It's ok to have pride in your country.

 
isnt a will yours to write up whatever arbitrary way you see fit? if someone doesnt want to give his illegitimate children money do they have too? how is that a sign of sharia taking over?

Kevin,

Not when it involves Sharia Law being enshrined in the UK legal system.

That development is about appeasing the cultural sensitivities of Muslims who demand special privilege.


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I think Trump should deal with the islamic terrorists the same way Jefferson did..... we enjoyed almost 200 trouble free years after that.

TC is on point with his comments on what is going on it Europe and the end game. Imams announced this strategy decades ago and we are starting to realize they did exactly what they said they were going to. Sad.

Not a historian, but would like if someone could point out a modern nation that has; prospered, contributed to humanity, or improved quality of life for its residents, from an increase of islam among their people. Real islam, not the cultural variety. Can you even point to an predominately islamic nation you would want to visit/relocate to with your family?

I do not understand the liberal infatuation/defense of islam, it is opposed to many of their core issues and them as individuals. I guess I do understand, logic is simply not involved in their thought process.
 
Hysterical nonsense, calm down NorCal you sound neurotic.

It's ok to have pride in your country.


Are you a closet white supremacist TC ? Or maybe an astroturfer ? Maybe just full of hate ? I'm curious what your motivation is . Are you paid by the military industrial complex to further the heightened security agenda ? Acceptance, peace, harmony, reconciliation I can understand. You I do not.
 
Its also far to easy to label those that dont completely agree with a more Right viewpoint as Marxists, socialists, communists, etc. However when one who's views are more moderate, centrist, or perhaps even Left-leaning counters that some opposing viewpoints are Fascist-leaning the OTHER politically correct police are up in arms.

Perhaps peace, love, understanding, and negotiation is a thing of the past.

There's a happy thought.
 
Jefferson tried that first.... so have we. Their answer has not changed, neither should our response to their violence against us.
 
demented bag ladies...

This made me question everything I thought I knew, had to go verify-

Lady - After a thorough examination, my wife has assured me I am not one. Although I do like them a lot. @DruidCarol seems to be one of those based on her incredible patience with you, intelligence, and profile pic.

Bag - yes, I currently keep a 200 foot hank of Sterling Scion in it, it's very nice.

Demented - guilty as charged

So to avoid any confusion it might be better to call me "demented rope bag guy" going forward.
 

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