Fu*%face Von Clownstick

treebing said:
being in office for 47 years and avoiding any major scandal is pretty rare...

sharing your tax returns is helpful.

I voted for Biden because of how absolutely boring he is. thats the best quality I could hope for in a president. also Trumps deregulation campaign has been horrible for fish and I like to fish. Trump also made it legal to sell sick chickens so now i don't feel comfortable eating chicken.
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I share the environmental concerns, but I don’t think Biden will be in office for long should Democrat’s win, it will be a Kamala Harris presidency...
 
I am blown away nearly every year what the two main parties come up with for candidates. Very seldom in the election cycle do I vote for the winning candidate of the primaries. Then on Election Day it’s reduced to one of two paths you can get a vote for of what path the whole country will walk down. That’s it no more no less.
 
HigherGroundArborist said:
I am astounded that there are hardworking blue collar workers in this forum that think Biden is a good choice for the Presidency. I just don’t understand the logic there. Trump is crass and can’t keep his mouth shut. But he has reduced taxes, government regulations and boosted the economy, twice. What has Biden done in his 47 years of public service except get rich? Please, I would love to know. What are Biden’s accomplishments?
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What has Biden accomplished? How about helping to rescue America from George Bush's economic disaster, and leading this nation to its longest continuous jobs growth in our history, and it longest continuous positive economic growth in our history...Both came to a screeching halt under DJT.

Reduced taxes? A fuck boondoggle for the richest 1%, and pittance for the rest of us. We won't talk about the couple trillion dollar hole that it blew in our national debt. Fuck future generations..

Reduced regulations? At the expense of Mother Earth, and again fuck future generations (seems to be a theme here). As usual it will be the poor who bear the brunt of these extremely self serving short sighted policies because it is the impoverished who inevitable end up living next to the super fund site, having massive amounts of lead in their water, or living next to the nuclear power plant. Strange how that works out, aint it?

Boosted the economy twice? Despite what Donny is telling you, his economy is far from being "the greatest ever" Not even fucking close bro...He also does not get credit for spending a few trillion dollars of OUR tax-payer funds to get a portion of the tens of million of jobs back that he lost because of his missive mishandling of Covid. He does however get credit for driving over 8 million American's into poverty in under 8 months though. He does get credit for permanently closing down millions of small businesses though. He also gets credit for the over 110,000 new Covid case yesterday, and the Covid carnage that will bring us to a half a million dead Americans in short order. Ruminate on that for a minute..A half a million Covid deaths in a calendar year, and a majority of those deaths were completely avoidable.

I also can't help but wonder if all of Donny's ego stroking super spreader campaign events played a part in the very dark winter that we are about to experience....
 
It baffles me how 'hard working, blue collar' Americans have gotten the idea that Trump represents their interests or cares about them at all. He has never worked an honest day in his life. He was born a spoiled millionaire from day one. If anything, he probably considers himself superior to ordinary people and looks down on anyone who is not a shining success, another rich guy like himself. The only value he places on his supporters or their interests (and health) is if they continue to support him and feed his ego. Just look at the rest of his family, his wife, and kids. Do you see anyone in the picture that looks hard working or anyone resembling an ordinary blue collar American? We have been conditioned as a nation to place ultimate value on entertainment above other qualities. Trump is not the first time the country has voted into a major office an actor or entertainer. Trump is certainly entertaining, and he does have qualities (if you can call them that) in common with a lot of his supporters: he is shallow, selfish, crude, ignorant, bigoted, and vindictive. He represents the worst side of the American character and unfortunately we are seeing that there is a far larger slice of the US population who are just like him, than we would have imagined. But it is not so surprising if you look below the surface, at where our priorities are as a culture. We pay football players and actors thousands of times more than we pay teachers and nurses. A huge number of Americans can quickly tell you who won the World Series three years ago or last years' Super Bowl, or who the Kardashian sisters have just slept with or divorced, but have trouble with even the most basic facts from their own country's history, like simple stuff about the Civil War or the Revolution, or now even WWI and WWII. I did Civil War reenacting for many years and regularly we were astounded to have grown-up people look right at us in a blue or gray uniform and ask us which side we portrayed, or even in a few cases who won the war. These people were not joking either. It was clear they were only there in most cases for the fun of it and had no real interest in the history at all. The amount of ignorance was constantly appalling. Our junior high and high schools normally place absolutely no importance on the teaching of history, but they will spend thousands a month on the maintenance and lighting bill for the stadium. They frequently won't even hire an actual history teacher, but save money by just handing the classes to a junior coach to stumble through in between his other 'more important' classes. History can be likened to the charts in the pilothouse of a ship, the hard learned lessons of the past, of what to do and not to do, of costly past mistakes and trends. Does a ship throw away its charts of where the hazards are when it is caught in a storm or gets near the reefs? The US has always been a forward looking nation, built by people looking for a better life or running from something, and of course our immediate forebears had good reason to want to forget the Great Depression and both World wars. But do we want to repeat any of that? Do we want to see four more years of the division and chaos Trump has encouraged, stuff that in the past has easily led to war with another country or even with ourselves? Right, well rant mode off now, and the sun has come out and I am going climbing somewhere this afternoon! Can't think of a better stress buster, away from watching these damn election results.
 
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I wanted to add a bit to what I just said above. The next few months, if Trump does lose, are going to be potentially a very dangerous time for our nation. Not only are we facing the pandemic getting perhaps far worse than before due to his criminal incompetence in not handling it, but this is a man, who as a lame duck president, can do an incredible amount of damage to our country and its sacred institutions before another president takes office on 20th January. One has to look no further than his appalling speech yesterday to see that the possibility of losing has driven him completely unhinged and there will be absolutely no peaceful transfer of power or graceful concession with him as is traditional with past elections. Police have already arrested armed Qanon goons in a hummer who were preparing to attack a vote counting center in Philadelphia and Trump's own son made remarks about 'total war'. Trump will do everything he can to enflame this sort of stuff with his most ardent supporters, people who care absolutely nothing about the actual democratic process or the true will of the majority of Americans. It is not an exaggeration at all to say that our democracy and its future are more threatened now than at few other times in the past. There are serious divisions in this country which Trump and his ilk are doing their best to encourage and exploit to their own gain instead of any thought of healing or uniting the country or of what is best for the nation. There is a clear choice here of which side to come down on, for all of us, if we care about our country and its constitution and foundations, a clear choice of right and wrong, a clear choice of who to believe. And it is vital that we do so, to think for ourselves based on facts and truth rather than any one person's promises and BS.
 
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HigherGroundArborist said:
What has Biden accomplished in 47 years?
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He has been 1 senator out of 100 senators for 39 of those years and vice president for 8.
Not the president and far from having the power of the presidency.
You ask that question as if he alone could dictate law.
You only ask that question because Trump came up with that stupid shit at one of his rallies and the next day all his dearly devoted, alternate reality, parrot disciples started squawking the same stupid nonsense.

In his 4 years Trump has only been able to pass one major piece of legislation that he wanted in the form of a tax cut for the super wealthy.
Everything else has been done by executive order or by pressure like the stimulus bill.

Any possible benefits that were to be realized from this tax cut for the middle class was sucked up by stock buy backs and bonuses for corporate CEOs, and the rest flushed down the toilet by the Trump Government Shut Down except for the bill for it that will be paid for by the middle class.

The so called regulations that he pulled back on kept factories from dumping their filth into river and streams.
Yeah! Fuck that regulations, who needs clean drinking water traveling down stream into water sheds?

That man is nothing but a greedy selfish crook, a self absorbed asshole who doesn't give a crap about this country, the people in it, or his own supporters.
 
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dsptech said:
He has been 1 senator out of 100 senators for 39 of those years and vice president for 8.
Not the president and far from having the power of the presidency.
You ask that question as if he alone could dictate law.
You only ask that question because Trump came up with that stupid shit at one of his rallies and the next day all his dearly devoted, alternate reality, parrot disciples started squawking the same stupid nonsense.

In his 4 years Trump has only been able to pass one major piece of legislation that he wanted in the form of a tax cut for the super wealthy.
Everything else has been done by executive order or by pressure like the stimulus bill.

Any possible benefits that were to be realized from this tax cut for the middle class was sucked up by stock buy backs and bonuses for corporate CEOs, and the rest flushed down the toilet by the Trump Government Shut Down except for the bill for it that will be paid for by the middle class.

The so called regulations that he pulled back on kept factories from dumping their filth into river and streams.
Yeah! Fuck that regulations, who needs clean drinking water traveling down stream into water sheds?

That man is nothing but a greedy selfish crook, a self absorbed asshole who doesn't give a crap about this country, the people in it, or his own supporters.
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Jeez. Remind me to never piss you off!
 
Chaplain242 said:
This leaked recording from Detroit Polling training is a bit of an eye opener...

https://rumble.com/vaxwob-detroit-leaks-video-was-taken-down-from-screwtube.html
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There is nothing in that video to indicate it's legitimate. It's just audio, it has shitty suspenseful music overlaid on it, anybody can make that with some open source audio programs. It listens like the blair witch project...seems real but could very easily be manufactured to appear that way. I'm not saying it's not real, but it must be proven to be by a credible source/agency.

Have you seen this shit from info wars (which is a satire conspiracy site). The video was pulled from youtube.


If the recording you posted above is legit, I would think and hope you or at least anyone would send it the michigan's states attorney office to investigate. Where it'll likely have this outcome:

www.cnn.com

Viral 'ballot' burning video shared by Eric Trump is fake

A viral video that purports to show about 80 "ballots," all for Donald Trump, being burned is fake, Virginia Beach city officials say.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com
 
Step up your game folks

Before posting any inflammatory looking material do your homework. Look at its hosting site and source. Has Snopes given an analysis?

There will be plenty of phony ‘Gotcha’ material around for a while
 
Yes lots of claims flying all over social media, I find it interesting, even the defamatory videos and memes. It’s a choice to get fired up or rattled. I am really interested to see if any claims get any real traction over the next week or so with the expected legal actions... popcorn ready for either outcomes...
 
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