EXPERIENCED HAND FALLERS - PUERTO RICO - STORM WORK

I respect you JC and am happy to see you back posting.

Unions are great and have a place. So does accountability. Numbers like you have shown is one of the reasons of the massive decline in unions and the general public allowing the constant gutting of unions to continue. (Canadian experience)
My comment was referring to pace of work. Worker could do 7-12 because the pace allowed them to. I personally cannot work a union job because I need to move to stay awake.

Back to the original hijack of this thread. 90 days straight on storm work on very rough terrain is a recipe to wear people out. Now the company may allow you to set a sustainable pace or they may push. It depends on management. Best find out before you sign on, or this job may indeed be Grimm.
 
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To the OP: D.Grimm, Inc.

Please forgive the trash talkers on here they mean no disrespect and all are really great guys. We have all been working hard to advance the rate of pay in our industry and most of the highly skilled credentialed individuals will surely just stay home and earn more than 30/hr in a safer environment.

You'd do better to look at the logging industry where wages have stagnated for the past 20+ years, you may find some skilled fellers homeless and broke just waiting for the chance to make their year's pay in three months in a warm (not frozen) climate. In this crowd is where you'll find the foremen and safety supervisors/ QC and QA type of people - worth more money due to their expertise and education.

To be fair, $30/hr IS pretty good pay if you don't have family to support, loans to pay back, equipment to maintain and replace, ambition for a better life in retirement, etc. I'm sure we can assume that the offer presented in the OP is just the tip of the carrot, a savvy employer won't put all the cards on the table right away - you have to start the dialogue then see where it actually takes you.

Also I hope you fill every position and get those ROWs cleared ASAP for the people of PR - they need all the help they can get!
 
Oroboros said:
My comment was referring to pace of work. Worker could do 7-12 because the pace allowed them to. I personally cannot work a union job because I need to move to stay awake.
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I promise you one thing you'd move as a union jiw or you'd be kicking rocks down the road wondering what happened to that fantastic job you had....
a fm told me one time when I was an apprentice "I gave you a break when I hired you!" Lol that being said we take a 15min coffee paid and a 30min unpaid lunch on eight, on ten you take another fifteen minute coffee break on 12+ usually another unpaid dinner. One time I was working a shut down at Birmingham steel I didn't leave the plant for almost three days. Got paid for the whole time. Everything dt and ot after the first eight. Slept in a break room; washed my face as well as i could and went back to work. We were setting wear plates in an active boiler(it was turned down as low as it could be) a man could only be in there for four minutes at a pop. That was the nastiest I have ever been; I threw those clothes away. They almost didn't let me shower at the truck stop because of all the gunk and grime on me. I wish I still had my pictures from all my phones back then, I was unrecognizable. I think I slipped the lady a twenty plus the shower fee and I had to promise to clean the shower when I was finished, lol.
So what that looked like on my check
8@ $22ph $168
40@ $33ph $1320
24@ $44ph $1056
$2544 + 72h of bennies
Not bad for three days


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ROYCE said:
I agree with this...Really think about this before you head down. My guys made more pruning sugar maples from the ground with pole saws today than this assignment. 30 an hour is just not worth it when compared to our market rates. Might be different for some. When we do storm work I double my rates to compensate for the degree of danger and difficulty. Just my 2 cents.
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You hiring? Lol


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It never ceases to amaze me how eager some people are to jump all over people offering jobs which don't conform to their expectations of normal pay or working conditions. I hate to break it to you, but these things vary a lot from one region to another and one country to another. And it is up to each worker, not the treebuzz peanut gallery, to decide if the compensation is worth their labor.

I would agree that the original post left a lot of questions unanswered, but keep in mind that the person who wrote this might not be a tree worker and the work plan may still be in the formulation stage.
 
That was in San Juan. We been here for months. Yeah there still a lot of work to do on the electrical grib but debris removal is 80% compete in many areas. I’m curious of what those boys on the DTOP leaner hanger contract going to make. Tropical trees grow fast. New veg is quickly engulfing any signs of tree damage. Every time in the port I see a lot of tree equipment there just not going anywhere. While we have done well, I think many other are not so fortunate
 
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