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Oh man, you guys make my head hurt. Eric, what ever happened to the guy who said this? :)

" One of my draws to SRWP is how little rope you can set yourself up to manage....keeping it clean and simple. "
 
So it's apparent to me now Oceans, that you not only have talent as a climber and videographer/editor, but you also excel as a writer? A few posts back, you took some really complicated stuff to explain, and made it understandable for me. Aren't you a musician too? Upright bass maybe? Geez!
You know, you'll never be the best you can with any of those, if you don't stop meddling and focus on one thing, right? :)

In all seriousness, impressive man!
 
TreeLogic said:
So it's apparent to me now Oceans, that you not only have talent as a climber and videographer/editor, but you also excel as a writer? A few posts back, you took some really complicated stuff to explain, and made it understandable for me. Aren't you a musician too? Upright bass maybe? Geez!
You know, you'll never be the best you can with any of those, if you don't stop meddling and focus on one thing, right? :)

In all seriousness, impressive man!
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I know Logic! If I could "Honey I shrunk the arborist" myself and spend a month in Oceans front pocket with a tiny I pad to take notes pics and videos.... wait this is getting weird.
 
Personalty I see no reason a pear/delta shaped screw will not work equally well. It may not be as pretty but function wise, all the same. I also think having a splice/sewn eye on every climbing line is important and thus lends itself well to this configuration if wanted.
I have not played with the 3T and probably will but still have a hard time justifying a dedicated 300' (3x100'ers) of rope and duplicate SRT ascenders when I am getting along with 200' of rope, 1 SRT ascender and a DdRT on the far end when needed for positioning, traverse, pitch advance and ascent.
It is not quite the same but cinching a base anchored TIP, when the TIP is reached, and then having a ground crew or waiting climber release the base anchor, provides 2 access/work lines as well. (although not ground based retrievable and a return to the TIP must be made to make it recoverable)
I'll certainly give it a try though sounds like it has merit and something to have available. (although I suspect this will not be a lasting technique but then again it may become mandated, who knows)
 
I believe it is like a tool in the tool box ..May climb one hundred trees that its overkill , but if your some what proficient with it as a tool to be used in certain situations. If could save you time one time or save your life. Its worth putting in time to learn for myself.
 
TreeLogic said:
So it's apparent to me now Oceans, that you not only have talent as a climber and videographer/editor, but you also excel as a writer? A few posts back, you took some really complicated stuff to explain, and made it understandable for me. Aren't you a musician too? Upright bass maybe? Geez!
You know, you'll never be the best you can with any of those, if you don't stop meddling and focus on one thing, right? :)

In all seriousness, impressive man!
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Will, some things people just gravitate to. I do play the double bass, but probably more accomplished on guitar (and that's MUCH easier to carry around with you). I have been so involved with climb related things that other pursuits have slowed a bit to be honest.

I appreciate what you've said in regard to writing, and my hope for is all to gather/create good terminology in order to enhance out communication.

For the most part, the amount of content in my posts is directly related to the time I spend to create them. I like to re-read before sending them out there to ensure that they are clear. It takes some effort, for sure, so thank you, but also realize that your comprehension is related to your vocabulary. You can pat yourself on the back.

Words are so rad. Word!
 
Worthaug said:
I know Logic! If I could "Honey I shrunk the arborist" myself and spend a month in Oceans front pocket with a tiny I pad to take notes pics and videos.... wait this is getting weird.
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That's funny, man. I'm usually the guy that has to stop myself partway through a statement, as I realize how I might be coming across.

SO!...Uhhhh...ahem...How about that new movie coming out with Natalie Portman????...
 
oceans said:
That's funny, man. I'm usually the guy that has to stop myself partway through a statement, as I realize how I might be coming across.

SO!...Uhhhh...ahem...How about that new movie coming out with Natalie Portman????...
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Haha thats great.. I'm that guy too.. I stop to think ,then just keep going cause i remind myself ..don't worry about lame judgments that don't mean dick to me..the wise see whats what and the judges just keep judging .
 
JontreeHI said:
So oceans these are issues not with the link set up, but with the triple threat system period, correct? The link vs the ring shouldn't change that
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I think any system with multiple lines connected within the crown could create some considerations, so my opinion is that having dedicated lines spliced to a single ring would be great in some instances and not so great in others. Using a Petzl Ring Open might be a good option if the splices can pass the gate, or use a delta link so that you can create the system with what you already have. Those options might allow loading in multiple wacky directions without as much concern as a Y created with two links. It all depends on the application.

Let's not forget the good ol Alpine Butterfly and Sheet Bend. Low tech, high effect!
 
oceans said:
I think any system with multiple lines connected within the crown could create some considerations, so my opinion is that having dedicated lines spliced to a single ring would be great in some instances and not so great in others. Using a Petzl Ring Open might be a good option if the splices can pass the gate, or use a delta link so that you can create the system with what you already have. Those options might allow loading in multiple wacky directions without as much concern as a Y created with two links. It all depends on the application.

Let's not forget the good ol Alpine Butterfly and Sheet Bend. Low tech, high effect!
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So what I gather is its all about back to the future!
 
yoyoman said:
it may become mandated, who knows)
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Let's work against mandating any of this double stuff. But let's also embrace the idea that it just might be the perfect system in some instances, or find that competency with it may make it applicable in many more cases.

Riding the two systems in parallel is really not bad at all when you can operate or manage tail as one. The positioning options that become possible are remarkable...

...IN SOME CASES!
 
DSMc said:
Oh man, you guys make my head hurt. Eric, what ever happened to the guy who said this? :)

" One of my draws to SRWP is how little rope you can set yourself up to manage....keeping it clean and simple. "
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That guy is still here, believe me! In fact, despite how it may sound, most of the technique I've been trying lately is two simple systems. I feel like I could get by with something of a 4' lanyard, and I'll never be in a lanyard alone. This means redirects can often be easier because I'm not trying to figure out how to support my weight from the lanyard alone in thin wood. Just slack one out, pass it, slack/pass the second (or don't!) and off you go.

I hope you and the Ms. are well. You can both sit back and enjoy a coffee, knowing that I'll still base tie one line that's just long enough to do what I need to do.

Cheers!
 
oceans said:
I do play the double bass, but probably more accomplished on guitar (and that's MUCH easier to carry around with you).
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Ha! I play the piano. Try carrying that beeyyaatch around. I should really look into the accordion.

Here's one of my favorite old cartoons from The Far Side:
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Say Will - why don't you pull that thing out and play us a tune?
 
TreeLogic said:
Ha! I play the piano. Try carrying that beeyyaatch around. I should really look into the accordion.

Here's one of my favorite old cartoons from The Far Side:
mini-LARSON05.JPG

Say Will - why don't you pull that thing out and play us a tune?
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Keytar. 'Nuff said. But I digress...
 
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