DON'T EVEN TRY IT!

Daniel said:
OK,
here it is. Some of you might know Dave Bryant, "treeslayer" from the early days on arboristsite.. He's from VA, and helped me out getting stump grinding work in Williamsburg after Hurricane Isabel.

He was in his "have saw will travel" mode so he came to Philly and stayed in the in-law's suite. I had seen some of his cuts and was trying to show him there was a better way. But I know how tree guys are. So rather than have an argument about which falling cut is better I wanted to show him, in a convincing way.

I think this was only the second day we worked together. He had climbed the tree and asked me a couple of times if I wanted him to take it down to shorten the fall. I told him to leave it as a way of demonstrating how much confidence I had in the open face. There is a distinction between thinking you're good, and having the kind of confidence it takes to trust your skill when there is property at risk. The more expensive the property, the more confidence needed. That's often not fully appreciated in this biz.

The next day Dave asked for a lesson in falling trees.

Here's a video I put up that he sent me from VA. nice job, though there is a lot of profanity:

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Embarrassing
 
rico said:
WTF? I thought you were gonna spend some time coming up with a rational, credible explanation as to why your spar was too long, but that certainly wasn't it....Surely you can do better than that buddy.. I bought fucking graham crackers, chocolate bars, and marshmallows thinking we could make smores and sing a little Kumbaya while we all sat around the fire intently listening to your amazing tales. You have once again managed to leave me utterly limp and flaccid, which ain't easy to do....

I'm also slightly confused and having a really hard time grasping what "your confidence in the open face" has to do with the fact that your spar was simply too long, which caused it to slam into the street and the Non-Existent Curb. You then go on to pontificate about the amazing skill and confidence that is needed when valuable shit is on the line, yet we all got to watch you unnecessarily pile drive your spar into the only possible valuables in sight (the street and the Non Existent Curb).......It seems to me that any skilled professional with a shred of sound judgement would have simply taken the few moments needed to flop a few small logs on the lawn, which would have instantly removed the risk of breaking anything, including the Non-Existent Curb............But what the fuck do I know?
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Thats about as clear as it could be said.
 
I still want to know where the mysterious Certified Arborist credentials that are being blasted all over his website came from. I take great personal offense to someone claiming a certification they do not have, especially if that certification is being used to seduce potential customers into thinking they are hiring a more highly qualified professional.
 
Reach said:
I still want to know where the mysterious Certified Arborist credentials that are being blasted all over his website came from. I take great personal offense to someone claiming a certification they do not have, especially if that certification is being used to seduce potential customers into thinking they are hiring a more highly qualified professional.
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Take a number and get in the back of the line Reach cause I am still waiting for the vid of that Tulip he was gonna THROW over the deck rial. Yea the one where he was gonna use a swinging sizwheel piecostya with a modified Coos Bay Tickler thrown in for good measure... All this was gonna be done while he was standing on the top rung of an extension ladder, because we alll know Daniel dont climb......
 
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rico said:
Take a number and get in the back of the line Reach cause I am still waiting for the vid of that Tulip he was gonna THROW over the deck rial. Yea the one where he was gonna use a swinging sizwheel piecostya with a modified Coos Bay Tickler thrown in for good measure... All this was gonna be done while he was standing on the top rung of an extension ladder, because we alll know Daniel dont climb......
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Good point. I want to see that video too, and the story in the local newspaper showing the damages done. I’ve never seen that cut made, but it sure sounds like a good one to watch! Almost as good as the Amishmen that tried to put a tree through my neighbors house last year...
 
Reach said:
I still want to know where the mysterious Certified Arborist credentials that are being blasted all over his website came from. I take great personal offense to someone claiming a certification they do not have, especially if that certification is being used to seduce potential customers into thinking they are hiring a more highly qualified professional.
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Reach, I am with you. We pay money and take time to attain and maintain these certifications.
 
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Falsely claiming to be a ISA certified arborist would certainly be a very lowdown thing to do...Sure hope it ain't so Bro......
 
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rico said:
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Falsely claiming to be a ISA certified arborist would certainly be a very lowdown thing to do...Sure hope it ain't so Bro......
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Double talk and smoke and mirrors, not surprising. Its the new society we live in where people who call out BS become the bad guy and the perpetrator becomes the victim.
 
There is no one that can certify me! Whoever writes those certification tests doesn't know much about how to use a chainsaw or prune a tree. The American standards are 10 years behind the European standards for pruning. What can these people teach me about falling trees or rigging trees or pruning? If they can teach you something, then you have A LOT to learn.

I jumped through their hoops twice. CA PD-1643 Just never bothered to change the website, when my certification lapsed. I wouldn't mind getting re-certified, but when they raised their prices I just wasn't interested. BUT HEY at least we know you guys are doing homework on me!
 
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Daniel said:
There is no one that can certify me! Whoever writes those certification tests doesn't know much about how to use a chainsaw or prune a tree. The American standards are 10 years behind the European standards for pruning. What can these people teach me about falling trees or rigging trees or pruning? If they can teach you something, then you have A LOT to learn.

I jumped through their hoops twice. CA PD-1643 Just never bothered to change the website, when my certification lapsed. I wouldn't mind getting re-certified, but when they raised their prices I just wasn't interested. BUT HEY at least we know you guys are doing homework on me!
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There’s a lot I could say to that, but at a minimum I would suggest changing your website before someone decides to sue you for false advertising. To me, that is a very big deal, as you are claiming a certification that many people who are willing to put in the work to maintain and pay for have spent much time and energy to keep up. If you don’t want to be bothered, that’s fine, but don’t claim to have the certification if you don’t actually have it!
 
Daniel said:
There is no one that can certify me! Whoever writes those certification tests doesn't know much about how to use a chainsaw or prune a tree. The American standards are 10 years behind the European standards for pruning. What can these people teach me about falling trees or rigging trees or pruning? If they can teach you something, then you have A LOT to learn.

I jumped through their hoops twice. CA PD-1643 Just never bothered to change the website, when my certification lapsed. I wouldn't mind getting re-certified, but when they raised their prices I just wasn't interested. BUT HEY at least we know you guys are doing homework on me!
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Daniel you have just admitted to being a FRAUD....Instead of attacking others for your own short comings maybe you should do the right thing and remove the false claims from your website...

Otherwise some might begin to think your a fraudulent, snake oil selling, charlatan.....
 
I haven't made any changes to that website in years, but its probably a good idea as I went way down in the organic seo rankings lately. I didn't care much because we have plenty of work with the EAB killing all the ash trees. That said, I'd put my credentials up against yours anytime.
 
daniel you got a knack for revealing the deep insecurities of this industry and the individuals involved. from isa whistleblowers to tree feller police, keep the hits coming!
 
ppsavage said:
daniel you got a knack for revealing the deep insecurities of this industry and the individuals involved. from isa whistleblowers to tree feller police, keep the hits coming! Clearly mom took him off the boobie way too early....
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Speaking of psycho-analyzing the tree industry, can you imagine the mommy issues some dude is dealing with when he decides to do something as lowdown as Fraudulently Claiming to be a ISA Ceritifed Arborist.? Clearly momma took him off the boobie waaaay too early....

And since were talking about the tree felling popo, can you imagine their sense of surprise when they finally come to realize this is stellar sawmanship, and dulll saws rule ?

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