Deep and dark...

[frashdog]

I actually operate lots of machinery and tools with my eyes closed...nothing bad has happened...yet. Hell, I close my eyes all the time driving. Only feel asleep and totaled a car once, like 15 years ago, so I must be a pro by now.

Closing my eyes helps me get a "feel" for what's happening. Like the blind guy that can ride a bike.

Anything that actually scares me, I usually find a way to pretend I'm doing it "safer".

 

[TimBr]

Sometimes adding a redirect, second tie in or lanyarding in while on a limb walk that could result in an injurious swing can limit your mobility getting where you want to go or accomplishing whatever task you are trying to get done. Most of the time for me the accident potential is increased by me moving my lanyard while in such a position thus exposing myself to swing and slam potential. I just love the CE lanyard too much to switch back to a double lanyard.

Thanks for this explanation, it is much appreciated. I think I remember seeing video of some guys who had to climb these really tall towers, which had a ladder on the inside, protected from the weather and the wind. It was such a long, exhausting climb that I think the OSHA guys said that they did not have to lanyard in during the climb, as that only made things worse, as far as exhausting the climber was concerned.

So I get the idea that sometimes a safety protocol can actually put a person in more danger than they would be in if just left alone to operate in a way that they are comfortable with.

Thanks again for taking the time with me.

Tim

 

[Stihlmadd]

Same here, especially early in the morning I consider touching the running chain, madness!!

Ha Ha glad it isn't just me that stares at the running chain and is somehow is drawn to the movement
nice to know I am not as crazy as I thought I was.
one hand - yes
one hand a 660 - yes
climb above tip - yes
not tied in twice - yes
not tied in at all - yes
unclip in the top - yes
smoke while refueling - yes
pistol start - yes
deliberately shorten the starter cord to improve pistol start - yes
make cuts with my eyes closed - yes
drop start a 880 with a 5 ft bar up the tree - yes
pee out of a tree in a botanical garden - yes
climb with one hand and a running 200 in the other cutting while smoking with no flip line - yes


not exactly a poster child for work place safety.

 

[KYAPLE]

One hand out of bucket- occasional
Climb on untested splices
Pull trees with machines- a lot! (Why not-super easy with headsets)

Oh yea.... Just had one week off, vacation on cape cod with family. Had an opportunity to smoke a joint with some old friends. I took it. I also work for a drug free company.

I'll come up with more, cheers Mac!


Kieran

 

[macswan]

Vacation does not count.

 

[Sgriff]

pee out of a tree in a botanical garden - yes

Bwahaahahaahahaa too much lmfao!!!

 

[Steve Connally]

I have this friend who surfed porn on his phone while he was in the tree forever waiting for somebody to send him a rope when everybody was on the other side of the job site. I wonder if he has a problem.

 

[Sgriff]

I always spit on the groundies that I'm not fond of... Makes me feel bad when I think about it,but sooo gratifying when i do it!

 

[Sgriff]

Errr ^ i ment i have a friend that does these things,I don't. [emoji12]

 

[SumoClimber]

Thanks for this explanation, it is much appreciated. I think I remember seeing video of some guys who had to climb these really tall towers, which had a ladder on the inside, protected from the weather and the wind. It was such a long, exhausting climb that I think the OSHA guys said that they did not have to lanyard in during the climb, as that only made things worse, as far as exhausting the climber was concerned.

So I get the idea that sometimes a safety protocol can actually put a person in more danger than they would be in if just left alone to operate in a way that they are comfortable with.

Thanks again for taking the time with me.

Tim

I know the video you're talking about. The one made for The Online Engineer. tOLE has tried to get it taken down, but it's made it's way to youtube and other video sites. Narrator is full o poo. NATE(National Association of Tower Erectors) has been trying to get rid of that video for a long time. IIRC, the owner of that tower actually got a fine because they didn't have ladder protection systems in place. There's no allowance via OSHA to climb without protection.

 

[moss]

I don't know if this is deep and dark but... Working SRT most of the time when I lanyard in to make a cut I'm using the lanyard SRT and cinching with the carabiner. Small diameter branch I wrap twice and then clip the cinch.

Two "problems" there:
1. No one thinks cinching with a biner is safe
2. Good chance the branch might not hold if I cut my main line, it's really a positioning anchor to create an ergonomic and safer body position to use a saw, not life support backup.

Are these habits to be broken or new realities of SRT work climbing?
-AJ

 

[rockettree]

I don't know if this is deep and dark but... Working SRT most of the time when I lanyard in to make a cut I'm using the lanyard SRT and cinching with the carabiner. Small diameter branch I wrap twice and then clip the cinch.

Two "problems" there:
1. No one thinks cinching with a biner is safe
2. Good chance the branch might not hold if I cut my main line, it's really a positioning anchor to create an ergonomic and safer body position to use a saw, not life support backup.

Are these habits to be broken or new realities of SRT work climbing?
-AJ

I don't see the connection with SRT, just bad habits. There are safe ways to use your lanyard in a single leg configuration and the extra length can be used to reach or accommodate stronger anchors.

 

[macswan]

I don't know if this is deep and dark but... Working SRT most of the time when I lanyard in to make a cut I'm using the lanyard SRT and cinching with the carabiner. Small diameter branch I wrap twice and then clip the cinch.

Two "problems" there:
1. No one thinks cinching with a biner is safe
2. Good chance the branch might not hold if I cut my main line, it's really a positioning anchor to create an ergonomic and safer body position to use a saw, not life support backup.

Are these habits to be broken or new realities of SRT work climbing?
-AJ

I was thinking about this yesterday. I was tied into a large elm removing small dead trees under it. Lanyard around a skinny dead stem. If I had cut my main line. The dead top would not have supported my fall. And the fall would have continued. That doesn't count as a second tie in to me. Just positioning. I should have had a secondary system if I wanted to be redundant.

 

[macswan]

I tell stupid insignificant lies. Nothing remotely serious, but just dumb things and I can hear myself saying them for no reason but it's too late. I already said it.

I used to do that all the time. Just for giggles

 

[Leroy]

I was thinking about this yesterday. I was tied into a large elm removing small dead trees under it. Lanyard around a skinny dead stem. If I had cut my main line. The dead top would not have supported my fall. And the fall would have continued. That doesn't count as a second tie in to me. Just positioning. I should have had a secondary system if I wanted to be redundant.

Major difference there for sure. C'mon Mac, I know you have plenty of gear to make it happen, DSRT!!

 

[rockettree]

Almost always tied in twice, not always tied into something that'll catch me and hold me if necessary, that's for sure

 

[Boomslang]

I don't always tie in twice, but when I do the second one is usually just for show. Stay thirsty my friends.

 

[Boomslang]

I spend most of my downtime in the tree imagining I've invented a lightsaber and pantomiming the sick Jedi skillz I'd use to get the tree down faster

 

[JontreeHI]

Here's one, a deep dark one for sure

I'm sometimes afraid

 

[macswan]

Here's one, a deep dark one for sure

I'm sometimes afraid

Dude, every time I climb. Keeps me honest