Deep and dark...

[Jeff]

Reaching into the chipper in-feed - daily.
One handing - often.
Not wearing chaps - frequently.
Not tied in twice - occasionally.

 

[Leroy]

Forgot about chipper reach in... scary

Nice poem

 

[Sgriff]

One handing- yes
Climb above TIP- yes
not tied in twice- yes
smoke while refueling- yes
as well as- no chaps (ever), unclip in top of trees quite often, no rescue on base anchor etc etc.

Thanks Mac, I needed to get that off my chest! This is a great job resume.

Lmao killin me Levi!!! So many similarities idk man.[emoji33]

 

[JontreeHI]

I tell stupid insignificant lies. Nothing remotely serious, but just dumb things and I can hear myself saying them for no reason but it's too late. I already said it.

 

[JontreeHI]

I'm perfect at work.

 

[Leroy]

I like to think I do the wrong things the right way

 

[Steve Connally]

Jeff. That's funny. Knowing the ignition temp of gasoline and what the flammable range is, it would need to be th perfect vapor concentration during an intense drag to actually cause an ignition but this thread isn't about making excuses. I shouldn't do it. Tim they are almost completely,empty I just don't refuel after the last cut at the end of the day. Often there isn't much in the tank. That allows more room for vapor expAnsion before the tank vents into the tool box. Levi. I did read that however I have my doubts. Just goes agains 20 years of rope care training. It's probably fine but it still bothers me. Ther probably isn't enough exposure, even in that tool box on a daily basis to make any difference in my gear. Just a thing with me I guess.

 

[CutHighnLetFly]

i basically never use chaps unless cutting firewood.
i say screw at times and try to do things my body almost cant do / shouldnt be doing (lift logs or cut a notch one handed aloft for example)
im sure this more that this thread will get me to think about hopefully. thanks mac

 

[NE Tree]

I NEVER wear chaps or chainsaw pants. If I know I'll be in the bucket truck, I'll wear shorts on hot days. Sometimes when cutting, I'll have a picture of the saw cutting into my leg, flash in my head. I know shorts are a really bad idea but if I wear pants, I'm probably going home a little early due to heat exhaustion. I'll try to do better tomorrow. Thanks for this thread mac.

 

[macswan]

One handing- yes
Climb above TIP- yes
not tied in twice- yes
smoke while refueling- yes
as well as- no chaps (ever), unclip in top of trees quite often, no rescue on base anchor etc etc.

Thanks Mac, I needed to get that off my chest! This is a great job resume.

Hahahahahahahaha!

Love it.

The unclipping in the tree... I will do that on occasion, just to prove I can. There is part of my brain that always wants to touch the running chain. It's that same part that makes me do that.

it's company policy where I work to wear chaps on the ground. Second warning is fire able offense. It's an unbreakable habit at this point. Now I just wear saw pants all the time. Feel naked without them.

 

[Sgriff]

Thats tripp,i get that urge to the chain some times,like it's drawing me in!!

 

[Sgriff]

This thread is such a damn fine idear.

 

[jmaher]

I'll second (or third) on the unclipping habit. Granted.. Chances are I resemble a koala when in the process.

 

[macswan]

Thats tripp,i get that urge to the chain some times,like it's drawing me in!!

Anything moving at high rpms. I just wanna touch for a second.

 

[Boomslang]

There isn't a day that goes by where I don't think "I bet I could stop that chain with my hand before it cuts me" or "I'll just clean out the clogged sawdust around the clutch while I keep cutting".

The number of members who've said they don't wear chaps/saw pants is amazing. Up here it's law and I haven't heard of a workplace that will allow you to skirt that regulation. Not wearing them is a quick way to get yourself fired.

 

[Steve Connally]

Wore saw pants climbing for years after giving myself 26 stitches in my knee. Then I just stopped one day. No reason really just stopped. When I had my own biz everyone wore chaps no exceptions. Then the following company I worked for wore chaps all the time. I haven't worn them since. It's a double benefit. Keeping chaps in is safe and a good way to keep a saw wrench in the pocket. That prevents any excuse for dangerously loose chains on running saws. My current gig the ground guys cut with chains so loose you could slip a quarter between the bar and chain. Often times there are no saw wrenches on the site except for the ones I keep in my climbing bag. I keep an eye on those like a hawk.

 

[Boomslang]

A quarter? I've run chains so loose I could fit my fingers between the bar and chain because I'm in give her mode and don't want to go find a wrench. I like to just imagine I have one of those magical self tensioning saws.

 

[ROYCE]

Anything moving at high rpms. I just wanna touch for a second.

Thats crazy, I thought I was the only one who had that urge.

 

[dmd]

My name is Doug and I'm a drop starter.

I cant seem to break the habit.

 

[Reliable tree man]

I'm a relatively new climber, so go easy on me when I ask my stupid question, please.

It is only recently, because I can be a slow learner sometimes, that I've come to understand one of the biggest advantages of climbing SRT. That is the ability to create new tie-in points at will where ever you happen to be. So let's say I have a base tie, and my last suspension point is across the tree from me, and I've climbed up almost even with it just by grabbing branches and climbing up like a kid would do without any gear.

At this point, you can lanyard in and wrap a sling and biner around the branch in front of you, and pass your SRT rope into the biner, thereby creating a support point above and in front of you, which can then be leapfrogged up the branch, if necessary.

Kevin Bingham called his Rope Wrench "the branch that goes with you". I now think of the SRT redirect as "the Primary Suspension Point that goes with you".

So my stupid question is, why do you not utilize that technique in order to avoid the potential of a huge, injurious swing that is possible when your tie-in point is a long ways away and nearly level with you?

It is possible you are climbing DdRT, or there could be some other scenario I'm not adequately picturing in my mind.

Thanks in advance for any answers you choose to provide.

Tim

Sometimes adding a redirect, second tie in or lanyarding in while on a limb walk that could result in an injurious swing can limit your mobility getting where you want to go or accomplishing whatever task you are trying to get done. Most of the time for me the accident potential is increased by me moving my lanyard while in such a position thus exposing myself to swing and slam potential. I just love the CE lanyard too much to switch back to a double lanyard.

Your question is not stupid at all and the theory behind it is absolutely correct. We should be using methods such as second tie-ins, lanyard, or re-directs to eliminate dangerous swing potential.

The same type of thinking could be applied to the other indiscretions mentioned in this thread which is why they are bad habits





For the record I primarily climb DDRT.