Covid Close To You
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SomethingWitty
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This whole thread is getting petty.
Nobody posting for the last couple of pages has not looked like an asshole.
I've appreciated @DSMc having reasonable input, especially the comment about these posts having no purpose other than the propagation of fear and depression.
I have noticed a clear absense of responses to any good points and honest questions that oppose the masks, shutdowns, and general hysteria.
@Bart_ I am sure you mean well, I just can't wrap my head around the perceived benefits. Your condolences were well received. I see that you're not digging into the trashy banter.
@Brian55 you had more than one good point mixed in with a bunch of rash emotional reactions. The first one to get mad loses.
Nobody posting for the last couple of pages has not looked like an asshole.
I've appreciated @DSMc having reasonable input, especially the comment about these posts having no purpose other than the propagation of fear and depression.
I have noticed a clear absense of responses to any good points and honest questions that oppose the masks, shutdowns, and general hysteria.
@Bart_ I am sure you mean well, I just can't wrap my head around the perceived benefits. Your condolences were well received. I see that you're not digging into the trashy banter.
@Brian55 you had more than one good point mixed in with a bunch of rash emotional reactions. The first one to get mad loses.
Gawd knows I hate to look like an asshole, but I am very curious as to which one of Brian's points you consider "good" Mr. Witty?
That the Covid virus, which has killed over 330,000 Americans, is not deadly.
That if we get the vaccine we will be micro chipped and tracked.
That Covid deaths are over inflated because they are labeling everything a covid death these days.
That we are all too pussified to actually do anything for yourself.
That we are the sheep.
That this was never about a virus, but about control.
That our overlords have locked things down not to try and curb the spread of the virus, but instead in an attempt to grind the economy to a halt.
On a side note, last night I hung out with a local woman who in the last 2 days lost her 37 year old nephew to covid, and lost her elderly aunt to covid... I also spoke to an old friend down in Santa Cruz who's mother and close neighbor are both extremely sick from covid and fighting for their lives a we speak...This shit is no joke folks, so in the spirit of showing compassion for your loved ones, friends, neighbors, and fellow human beings, please take it seriously....
deevo
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Well said, we are starting a 28 day lockdown here now in Ontario, Canada stay safe out there bro.
That the Covid virus, which has killed over 330,000 Americans, is not deadly. - No more deadly than dozens of other things we choose to do on regular basis.
That if we get the vaccine we will be micro chipped and tracked.- The micro chip and tracking will start after the vaccine has been widely distributed
That Covid deaths are over inflated because they are labeling everything a covid death these days. - Yes, this is fact
That we are all too pussified to actually do anything for yourself. - Yes, you advocate government enforces your ideals on everyone, because you're otherwise powerless in that regard.
That we are the sheep.- People who blindly follow orders, don't question "authority" and do their own research are exactly that.
That this was never about a virus, but about control. - Never let a crisis go to waste
That our overlords have locked things down not to try and curb the spread of the virus, but instead in an attempt to grind the economy to a halt. - Not in an attempt, but as an excuse.
"Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times."
I'm sure you can easily see where we are at in that cycle.
1. Reality check fool. Of the top 12 causes of death in America only 2 (cancer & heart disease) have a higher yearly rate of death than Covid did this year, and Covid in not far behind either....
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We could all listen to your fact free, never ending nonsense on the matter, or we could listen to the CDC's data...As we can all see Covid which is on coarse to kill 400,000 American's in a calendar year is squarely in 3rd place behind only cancer and heart disease.
https://www.cdc.gov/healthreport/publications/compendium.pdf
https://www.healthline.com/health/leading-causes-of-death
Time for you to put your money where you mouth is and list the dozens of thing that you do daily that are more dangerous than the covid virus buddy..
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@Tuebor It is really shameful that you would minimize the damage these lockdowns have done buy listing all of the places you have been able to visit and all the things you've been able to do through this recent time as if there aren't people who have lost everything as a result of the government, not a virus. Healthy people's lives have been destroyed and they're livelihood taken away by the government, not Covid.
Regardless of where one stands on the severity of covid or conspiracies or vaccination or whatever..... I encourage people to go directly to the data rather than read snippets on websites or watch the god awful television. Anecdotal stories about a young person that died with covid aren't enough to determine appropriate policy.
The bottom line is that lockdowns are ineffective and do nothing to stop the spread of the virus. All the available scientific study shows this is true. Lockdowns do however kill people via excess suicides and overdoses as well as degrade mental health and quality of life for many people who are highly unlikely to be seriously affected by covid. The vast majority of people dying with covid would die anyway. The reality is lockdowns don't work, masks do nothing to stop the spread and case numbers rise and fall according to nature, not lockdowns.
Lockdowns are draconian measures that destroy people's lives and don't affect the virus. There is no way to implement a full lockdown of society because society requires so many people to keep going to work in order to function.
There are many legitimate questions to be asked of the authorities determining policy. Doing so doesn't make one a conspiracy theorist or qanon reading, tinfoil hat wearing trump supporter.
Skimming thorough this thread shows the division that has been sowed among people and it is sad. I believe people have the right to earn a living and all businesses are essential. I also believe that if you are worried about a virus that you should be able to stay home and do whatever you think will keep you safe.
Quality of life matters and to still have a heartbeat but have my quality of life destroyed doesn't sound like a good deal to me.
Here are links to really data that may cause some of you to rethink your positions:
Death rate for Florida lower than 19 other states most of which locked down:
coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state
Sweden has a lower death rate than Frnace and UK as well as other countries that locked down: coronavirus-death-rate-europe-by-country
Study of 168 countries showing that lockdowns and stringency of restrictions has zero effect on mortality rate from covid:
Frontiers | Covid-19 Mortality: A Matter of Vulnerability Among Nations Facing Limited Margins of Adaptation | Public Health
Study on mask efficacy showing they don't prevent infection:
Effectiveness of Adding a Mask Recommendation to Other Public Health Measures to Prevent SARS-CoV-2 Infection in Danish Mask Wearers: A Randomized Controlled Trial: Annals of Internal Medicine: Vol 0, No 0
Study showing asymptomatic spread not likely driving pandemic:
Post-lockdown SARS-CoV-2 nucleic acid screening in nearly ten million residents of Wuhan, China | Nature Communications
Regardless of where one stands on the severity of covid or conspiracies or vaccination or whatever..... I encourage people to go directly to the data rather than read snippets on websites or watch the god awful television. Anecdotal stories about a young person that died with covid aren't enough to determine appropriate policy.
The bottom line is that lockdowns are ineffective and do nothing to stop the spread of the virus. All the available scientific study shows this is true. Lockdowns do however kill people via excess suicides and overdoses as well as degrade mental health and quality of life for many people who are highly unlikely to be seriously affected by covid. The vast majority of people dying with covid would die anyway. The reality is lockdowns don't work, masks do nothing to stop the spread and case numbers rise and fall according to nature, not lockdowns.
Lockdowns are draconian measures that destroy people's lives and don't affect the virus. There is no way to implement a full lockdown of society because society requires so many people to keep going to work in order to function.
There are many legitimate questions to be asked of the authorities determining policy. Doing so doesn't make one a conspiracy theorist or qanon reading, tinfoil hat wearing trump supporter.
Skimming thorough this thread shows the division that has been sowed among people and it is sad. I believe people have the right to earn a living and all businesses are essential. I also believe that if you are worried about a virus that you should be able to stay home and do whatever you think will keep you safe.
Quality of life matters and to still have a heartbeat but have my quality of life destroyed doesn't sound like a good deal to me.
Here are links to really data that may cause some of you to rethink your positions:
Death rate for Florida lower than 19 other states most of which locked down:
coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state
Sweden has a lower death rate than Frnace and UK as well as other countries that locked down: coronavirus-death-rate-europe-by-country
Study of 168 countries showing that lockdowns and stringency of restrictions has zero effect on mortality rate from covid:
Frontiers | Covid-19 Mortality: A Matter of Vulnerability Among Nations Facing Limited Margins of Adaptation | Public Health
Study on mask efficacy showing they don't prevent infection:
Effectiveness of Adding a Mask Recommendation to Other Public Health Measures to Prevent SARS-CoV-2 Infection in Danish Mask Wearers: A Randomized Controlled Trial: Annals of Internal Medicine: Vol 0, No 0
Study showing asymptomatic spread not likely driving pandemic:
Post-lockdown SARS-CoV-2 nucleic acid screening in nearly ten million residents of Wuhan, China | Nature Communications
The nanobots don't become activated until after your 2nd dose and the 5G towers are fully integrated.
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Did you really just tout Sweden's response?
Sweden- 8,279 deaths
Norway- 421 deaths
Finand- 524 deaths
Denmark- 1153 deaths
Nuff said....
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-...roof-that-lockdowns-are-useless-idUSKBN28C2R7
https://www.newstatesman.com/world/europe/2020/12/what-have-norway-finland-and-denmark-got-
right-covid-19
https://partner.sciencenorway.no/ep...-reduced-hospitalizations-drastically/1701510
Reliable tree man
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Not “Nuff said” actually. I presume you are making the case that lockdowns are effective with that comparison. If that were true why does Sweden have a lower death rate than France, Spain, Italy and the UK? Why does Florida have a lower death rate than many states that locked down? If you would read one of the studies I posted above you would see that the conclusion was that stringency of restrictions don’t affect death rate. This is one of many papers on the topic.
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