Compact Bulldog Bone

gmcttr said:
One of the beauties of the BDB is there are no loose parts to drop. Slic pins would ruin that concept and add cost, both in materials and labor.
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Just for the record, the slick pins would not have to come out of both sides, just one, like the ZK-2. It might add cost, but it would remove the cost of hand shaping the exit slot for the swinging side plate (which requires fit/test/grind/repeat), and it would remove the cost of scalloping out the rope reliefs on the lower and upper arms. That aside, I'll say it again, I absolutely love the Bone just as it is.
 
Heal quickly Tyler. 13 broken bones, 97 stitches, 2 steel plates, 11 steel screws, and 1 steel pin so far in my life, lol. I still have all the steel stuff in my body, it's there for life. I broke my collar bone and my arm skateboarding many years ago, came out the back side of a vert ramp and fell 20 feet hitting stuff on the way down. I got lucky really. Six weeks later when it all came off I thought it would be good to go street luging now that I could move my arm again, ha ha. Bad idea. I came around a corner a little hot and the board slid. After doing the Ragdoll for awhile I smashed into a barrier, rebroke my collar bone and cracked my nice Bell Helmet. Damn karma. The moral is....after it heals, don't do stupid sh..t. It is still not completely healed when you get the casts off. Good luck.
 
monkeylove said:
Heal quickly Tyler. 13 broken bones, 97 stitches, 2 steel plates, 11 steel screws, and 1 steel pin so far in my life, lol. I still have all the steel stuff in my body, it's there for life. I broke my collar bone and my arm skateboarding many years ago, came out the back side of a vert ramp and fell 20 feet hitting stuff on the way down. I got lucky really. Six weeks later when it all came off I thought it would be good to go street luging now that I could move my arm again, ha ha. Bad idea. I came around a corner a little hot and the board slid. After doing the Ragdoll for awhile I smashed into a barrier, rebroke my collar bone and cracked my nice Bell Helmet. Damn karma. The moral is....after it heals, don't do stupid sh..t. It is still not completely healed when you get the casts off. Good luck.
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Damn ML, you were a wildman!
 
TylerHoffman said:
haha. by the time i get my saddle on, you'll be at the top! I am practicing how to install the bdb on rope one handed, its possible and i should be pretty good at it by the time I'm healed.
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Now you're talkin' :sisi:

I screwed up my right arm and shoulder last year at the same time I received my rope runner and just looking at it didn't cut it. My solution was to use a PMI chest roller and harness so I could climb without using my right arm at all. Stupid?...sure. Fun?...you bet.
 
TylerHoffman said:
haha. by the time i get my saddle on, you'll be at the top! I am practicing how to install the bdb on rope one handed, its possible and i should be pretty good at it by the time I'm healed.
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You'll have mastered it by then. It's actually not too difficult. Had a old-timer-quasi gear-hater quiz me on that one already. Easier than a taught line, for sure.:)
 
monkeylove said:
Heal quickly Tyler. 13 broken bones, 97 stitches, 2 steel plates, 11 steel screws, and 1 steel pin so far in my life, lol. I still have all the steel stuff in my body, it's there for life. I broke my collar bone and my arm skateboarding many years ago, came out the back side of a vert ramp and fell 20 feet hitting stuff on the way down. I got lucky really. Six weeks later when it all came off I thought it would be good to go street luging now that I could move my arm again, ha ha. Bad idea. I came around a corner a little hot and the board slid. After doing the Ragdoll for awhile I smashed into a barrier, rebroke my collar bone and cracked my nice Bell Helmet. Damn karma. The moral is....after it heals, don't do stupid sh..t. It is still not completely healed when you get the casts off. Good luck.
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What were you trying? A McTwist?!?! LOL!!!
 
oceans said:
Just for the record, the slick pins would not have to come out of both sides, just one, like the ZK-2. It might add cost, but it would remove the cost of hand shaping the exit slot for the swinging side plate (which requires fit/test/grind/repeat), and it would remove the cost of scalloping out the rope reliefs on the lower and upper arms. That aside, I'll say it again, I absolutely love the Bone just as it is.
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I assume the special plates/pins to replace the chain links would also cost more than the current links. While I did the "fit/test/grind/repeat" on my DIY BDB chain link slots, if I was doing several, I would have a simple 'cut-off wheel/jig setup' to make this a quick and repeatable operation.

With that said, you are correct that there would be offsetting costs to consider.

Another plus for no Slic pins is I've found that I have to take off my gloves to reliably operate them while the chain link hooks are easy to open/close with or without gloves.
 
gmcttr said:
While I did the "fit/test/grind/repeat" on my DIY BDB chain link slots, if I was doing several, I would have a simple 'cut-off wheel/jig setup' to make this a quick and repeatable operation.
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I can only imagine what Gordon's studio looks like!

gmcttr said:
Another plus for no Slic pins is I've found that I have to take off my gloves to reliably operate them while the chain link hooks are easy to open/close with or without gloves.
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That I will agree with for sure. I've got my glove finger tips caught in the double locking slick pins far too many times.
 
All this about rope potentially coming out of the unit, etc... I just don't see it happening. The crossroading issue that resulted in the knob-mod has been the only real issue besides dialing in the T-Spot. :) I've been flying DSRT for a while now, with two Bones knocking around each other. Plenty of opportunity for something to foul up, but they haven't. They've been rock solid.
 
oceans said:
All this about rope potentially coming out of the unit, etc... I just don't see it happening...
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I agree. However, the thing I think should still be done before too many more are in climbers' hands, are both drop tests and attempted tests to destruction. It would be nice to know exactly how the BDB behaves when pushed over the limits.
 
Swing ain't got nuttin on this! sorry to derail
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