Compact Bulldog Bone

Thanks for the pictures John. I like the after picture of the spine better than the before! The pins look good also.
 
surveyor said:
Will, that looks like a nice job. I can image a cool breeze coming off the water ( although it may have been more like a sauna) I bet you love the fall and winter months!
The Neptune friction links look like they are resisting corrosion, better than the black oxide allen head screw on the nubs. How is the spine holding up to wear?
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awesome breeze up there...ill take a look for corrosion but so far ive got nothing but praise. love the thing.
 
surveyor said:
Thanks for the pictures John. I like the after picture of the spine better than the before! The pins look good also.
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Yeah the spine runs more smoothly now with that unique rope polishing. :) But you gave it a great head start. I think that is my favorite curve on the device. It just is so perfect, like someone created it and formed it with care. I am certainly amazed at all of the engineering that went into this little puppy.
 
John_KAYS said:
Yeah, my Bulldog fell off...:crying:

Also the only blemish really:
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Not sure what I'm seeing. Is the "blemish" a spot of rust on the "hook link" or whatever it is called?

If so, I'm wondering if Surveyor offers any kind of a higher priced option that would provide links made out of a material that does not rust? If possible, and if it was found to be strong enough for the purpose, my vote would be for stainless steel.

Thanks in advance for any answers.

Tim
 
I could make the side swivel snap links out of stainless, it would not be as strong, but strong enough. One difficulty might be the wear issue on the stainless snap link causing the "snap" to loosening over time. Tim , you will have to order one to find out.
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That blemish is nothing really. I couldn't be happier with it all. The corrosion is a tiny spot right where the link was cut to make the hook and is the spot that touches the post. Not a concern or even a cosmetic problem. The Bone looks like new and functions like awesomeness.

So I wouldn't think the stainless would be needed. I like the strength these have over the stainless. On occasion this has gotten wet in our tool box on our truck. I should remember to bring it in and keep it under my pillow every night.

Tim, you definitely need one! Don't you have one yet?
 
im flippin' obsessed with mine. im putting some wear on the spine though after 9 months. admittedly i have been bombing down with it...only sometimes...... i actually almost gave myself a burn blister going to take the rope out once. thinking i may just flip the spine and grow up a little, stop zipping rope thru the thing like i have been, maybe protect my investment a little better...

i may switch my rope choice too next time i need a new line. ive been all about Yale's 11.7 lines, but i may switch to Safari, i had a real good go with that a couple times using my coworkers rope. seems to hold its roundness a little. someone please correct me if im wrong as they were not super long climbing experiences. maybe ready for different rope, but im not ready to change from Yale cordage.

had some issues with pitch myself after blocking down a white pine stem. nothing mineral spirits and q tips couldnt resolve. not to mention im just used to gripping the rope over the bone, pushing it down with the bottom of my hand, and using my hand as my "hitch" until i get down to where im making my next cuts on the stem, so although not as smooth if it were weighted, its not much a problem by that point in the climb.
 
I couldn't stop my bdb from slipping on safari and I found it to be too bouncy as well. I did manage a few work climbs on it so you may be able to male it work .

However, I would just go with the cougar.
 
not to get to person gongfu but how much would you estimate you weigh with gear? and does the cougar line stay round running thru the bone?

and will yeah real glad i went with the bone. changed my SRT experience.
 
I would guess I weigh 220ish. I have a low centre of gravity with a rotund pear shape and my ears are getting hairy.

None of that is complementary, all of it is true and most of it relevant.

I messed around a lot trying to get the safari to work. A bollard on the lower arm helped. For me, I believe, the only way to make safari work would be by modifying the spine to make it narrower.
 
Oh yeah the cougar does flatten. The flattening seems to effect the tending, primarily. If it turns during re-accent it creates some friction.

I've said it before but I'll repeat: my new orange cougar slips a little too. I think that is because my old blue cougar has increased in diameter,with age, while the bdb spine has worn.
 
TimBr said:
No, I don't think it does. Oceans is talking here about using the otherwise unused part of your climbing rope, the part that is hanging underneath the bottom of your SRT climbing system, as a big loop with which to pull your choked high tie-in point back down to you.

You have the right idea about how a 3 to 1 would work, it would just have to be installed onto the other side of the cinched rope, the side that you are hanging off of, and to which your SRT climbing device is connected.

Any pulling on the looped (retrieval) side that Oceans is suggesting be installed, would loosen up your cinched tie-in point. Before you pull on the loop Oceans is talking about, it would be necessary to lanyard into another tie-in.

Tim
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Yes! Well put. The idea for using a bight of fall is that you can install it so quickly. This does require 3x distance to ground of rope to bail in an emergency...but that's only if your bitter end would get snagged in the carabiner without enough rope (3x). This is why I like an eye splice on both ends of my line. They act as stoppers and tend to pass through most things snag free.

Another way to accomplish this with 2x rope length is to pull the fall up until you get the bitter end and connect that to the eye of the Running Bowline. This uses less rope but takes more time to manage on round 1. Once it's set, you're good to go for the rest of the spar.
 
I've had the compact bulldog bone for maybe three weeks now, and I got a new hank of green tachyon at Mr Gordon's suggestion. I am very new to SRT & am loving it. Thanks to all you guys who shared your experiences here, mine is that it feels very like a hitch and is not jerky at all (which better than I got with the Rope Runner, although I only have maybe an hour on a borrowed one and the guy who owns it loves it)

I'd happily recommend the bone to any climber who'll listen. It also runs and grabs real nice on my fluffy old cougar line. I have not changed out the bollard, its as it came. Ive been using it in a rads/yoyo setup with a hand ascender above tethered to a footloop. I am 6'3" and approx 110kgs in my kit.
best :)
 
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JefLong said:
Ive been using it in a rads/yoyo setup with a hand ascender above tethered to a footloop.
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Love to see some video of that if you get a chance one day. Even a pic. Curious to see the setup and performance. I can imagine there are times when a Rads system might come in real handy.

Welcome to the Buzz by the way, Jeff.
 
CutHighnLetFly said:
im flippin' obsessed with mine. im putting some wear on the spine though after 9 months. admittedly i have been bombing down with it...only sometimes...... i actually almost gave myself a burn blister going to take the rope out once. thinking i may just flip the spine and grow up a little, stop zipping rope thru the thing like i have been, maybe protect my investment a little better...
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Where's the fun in growing up? I say continue to max perform this incredible tool you are fortunate enough to have the use of. Find out what you can really do with it. Just my humble opinion.

Tim
 
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