Compact Bulldog Bone

The only 16 strand ropes I have are 1/2", which is too fat for this purpose made adjuster, Maybe Neopro would work?
 
So for the last three days I have been removing some of the pitchiest damn pines I have ever encountered. Both my kmiii and tachyon are totally ruined, lanyard too.

So I was switching between runner and bone on every tree. And the bone definitely came out on top. The runner became much more unreliable on the pitchy ropes. Jumping down the rope and such. The bone became harder to operate surely, but was still predictable.
 
Good to know Mac. I was lucky enough on my pine that it was struck by lightning earlier this summer and all sap flow had ceased. I kept putting my hand on a recent cut and thinking, "Oh crap, that's gonna be sticky." but it never happened.
 
I'll say it again, the BDB rules on removals! For any of you that have set up friction savers on a spar, so you can DdRT down to the next trunk cut, it's a thing of the past. With the Bone, I just tie a running bowline with a 6' tail, drop down to the next cut, lanyard in, get a little slack in the line, yank the tail, and reset the bight. Money...
 
macswan said:
So for the last three days I have been removing some of the pitchiest damn pines I have ever encountered. Both my kmiii and tachyon are totally ruined, lanyard too.

So I was switching between runner and bone on every tree. And the bone definitely came out on top. The runner became much more unreliable on the pitchy ropes. Jumping down the rope and such. The bone became harder to operate surely, but was still predictable.
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There was a thread about this on the TreeHouse forum, in which Burnham, an elder statesman retired US forest service climber and timber faller, gave his approach to getting pitchy ropes clean.

Here's a link to his one particular post in which he lays it out. The whole thread is probably worth a read, though.

http://masterblasterhome.com/showth...-climbing-rope&p=737052&viewfull=1#post737052


Tim
 
TreeLogic said:
You don't think you can get it out? I only ask because I've had ropes that were bad off with sap, and after a wash in the machine and a little climbing, they turned out fine.
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No, it will come out, I just meant like for the last couple climbs. They were useless. It was just a matter of management of suck. They'll be fine after a wash this weekend. I was just being dramatic
 
TreeLogic said:
I'll say it again, the BDB rules on removals! For any of you that have set up friction savers on a spar, so you can DdRT down to the next trunk cut, it's a thing of the past. With the Bone, I just tie a running bowline with a 6' tail, drop down to the next cut, lanyard in, get a little slack in the line, yank the tail, and reset the bight. Money...
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You can also tie off without any excess tail. Simply put a carabiner in the eye of the Running Bowline, then grab the fall of line below the Bone and hang that in the biner.

As you descend, you can go whatever distance you need to (provided there's enough rope) and lanyard in. Un-weight the Bone and pull both up and down legs of the fall to retrieve.

The Bone is nice for that since the line loads and unloads so easily. Great for suck management.
 
oceans said:
You can also tie off without any excess tail. Simply put a carabiner in the eye of the Running Bowline, then grab the fall of line below the Bone and hang that in the biner.

As you descend, you can go whatever distance you need to (provided there's enough rope) and lanyard in. Un-weight the Bone and pull both up and down legs of the fall to retrieve.

The Bone is nice for that since the line loads and unloads so easily. Great for suck management.
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OK, I want to try this but let me make sure I understand. Are we clipping into the eye and pulling a bight of the fall line through the biner? And pulling more bight through as we descend?
 
oceans said:
You can also tie off without any excess tail. Simply put a carabiner in the eye of the Running Bowline, then grab the fall of line below the Bone and hang that in the biner.

As you descend, you can go whatever distance you need to (provided there's enough rope) and lanyard in. Un-weight the Bone and pull both up and down legs of the fall to retrieve.

The Bone is nice for that since the line loads and unloads so easily. Great for suck management.
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I never heard that one. I like it! The only downside with doing it that way is if you need to bail out quickly in an emergency. Still possible, but just a little more complicated. All in all I really like that...thanks for that tip.


I heard a technique that rock climbers use when they don't have enough rope for retrieval after rappelling down a cliff. They tie an object that is less weight than the climber onto the retrieval end and after they descend and unclip themselves from the line - the object/weight brings the line down even if tail is out of reach. I would imagine you would want to stand clear. :hueco: You wouldn't want to work a tree with a weight constantly fighting you, but it could come in handy. maybe.
 
Will, that looks like a nice job. I can image a cool breeze coming off the water ( although it may have been more like a sauna) I bet you love the fall and winter months!
The Neptune friction links look like they are resisting corrosion, better than the black oxide allen head screw on the nubs. How is the spine holding up to wear?
 
Jem4417 said:
does this create a 3:1?
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No, I don't think it does. Oceans is talking here about using the otherwise unused part of your climbing rope, the part that is hanging underneath the bottom of your SRT climbing system, as a big loop with which to pull your choked high tie-in point back down to you.

You have the right idea about how a 3 to 1 would work, it would just have to be installed onto the other side of the cinched rope, the side that you are hanging off of, and to which your SRT climbing device is connected.

Any pulling on the looped (retrieval) side that Oceans is suggesting be installed, would loosen up your cinched tie-in point. Before you pull on the loop Oceans is talking about, it would be necessary to lanyard into another tie-in.

Tim
 
Gordon, I had some time to take a few updated photos to show the current state of mine after using it on every climb since I got it. I really can't see much wear and it is made climbing SRT a dream. I seriously climb with it all the time.


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