Compact Bulldog Bone

Tico said:
Almost four weeks waiting for my BDB and...nothing! Going through hell with the Italian post office. Departed on the 5th of February. It took five days to get to Italy and finally at the post office in Rome on the 27th of February. I finally feel a little more relaxed as they kept the bone at the CSI Customs of Milan for more than two weeks...then Saturday and Sunday they don't work just to read that the bone was sent back to Milan again...I had it 1 mile far from home but they never came to deliver it!!! So I called all the numbers I knew. They said the terminals were messing up the last reading saying that it didn't go back to Milan. I've been personally to the post office where they claim it should be and they kept sending me up and down from one place to the other...I spoke to managers, 800 numbers, call centers and everything I could, also filling a complaint and another one by phone...I really don't want to think it this way but I'm pretty sure they lost it...I thought after a month I would get it...Not the case! F#@K Italy! Crooked mentality, crap attitude, stupid and useless country!
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Tah Dah!!!!!!!!
This morning very early I went back to the post office with bad intentions of suing everybody and after telling them that if they didn't give me my precious BDB I would have brought the police in there, they got very nervous and shaky and sent a guy to find it. I waited about half an hour and finally they found it...Yesterday I went three times to the same post office plus another place where they sent me because they thought it could be there...Well, I cannot do anything to try the bone right now but I will later for sure. All I could do was unboxing it and look at it...Wonderful object!!! If my 13mm rope has problems with it I will just purchase a real one which I had already in mind to do!!! THANK YOU GORDON!!!
 
Congrats! Now, you not only get to play with it today, but you also get to enjoy trying to explain to your friends and relatives what it is and how it works. Prepare yourself for those looks... the ones where you think you must have sprouted horns and a tail.
 
I better don't show and say anything because I know they will ask me "how much?" Even the price is right because of the great research and work Gordon had put in, to me it got seriously expensive because of extra costs of customs and taxes that this idiot country apply exaggeratedly on top of everything coming from abroad. For the entire thing it cost me the equivalent of US$ 405.00...:tonto:
 
Tico said:
I better don't show and say anything because I know they will ask me "how much?" Even the price is right because of the great research and work Gordon had put in, to me it got seriously expensive because of extra costs of customs and taxes that this idiot country apply exaggeratedly on top of everything coming from abroad. For the entire thing it cost me the equivalent of US$ 405.00...:tonto:
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But I don't care...I'm happy they gave it to me (under pressure) and I will experiment even with the help of the buzz, until I find the right combination of rope, bollard etc. One thing is for sure: can't wait to get outta this country!!!
 
Hi All, I've been reading through this thread over the past couple of weeks. I was wondering if it was too late to join the party, I didn't know who to ask or where to start. I was talking to, and listening to some other climbers in Lancanster and it seemed like everyone said to get a BDB, or get a RR. So I ordered the RR and was eagerly awaiting for it to ship, when I saw a BDB go up on Treebay. I jumped on it. I'm now looking forward to re-reading this whole thread while holding a BDB. Oh, and a wiki would be great. Lol. Thanks for everything,
Mike
 
One of us, one us us, ooga chaca, ooga chaca

For future reference, if you want to buy a new bone, it's available only one place, the man who designed and hand builds each unit. Gordon, or as he is known on the buzz, surveyor
 
mikbro81 said:
Hi All, I've been reading through this thread over the past couple of weeks. I was wondering if it was too late to join the party, I didn't know who to ask or where to start. I was talking to, and listening to some other climbers in Lancanster and it seemed like everyone said to get a BDB, or get a RR. So I ordered the RR and was eagerly awaiting for it to ship, when I saw a BDB go up on Treebay. I jumped on it. I'm now looking forward to re-reading this whole thread while holding a BDB. Oh, and a wiki would be great. Lol. Thanks for everything,
Mike
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Hey mike! What's ur last name? I was at lancaster talking to Aaron johns from bartlett supply and some others about the bone but I didn't have it with me.
 
First Impression: Definitely need to get a new rope! I first tried the BDB with the 5/8" bollard and it wasn't working at all. I put the smaller one which I'm not too sure but it should be 15/32 because it measures mm. 11.8 (somebody please correct me) and...it goes pretty well...tending is a breeze and it doesn't creep at all, however it's a little hard to pull down and if you do it too much the upper and lower arms meet but with weight it engages pretty well. Other thing...not easy at all to set the bone middle line...not completely impossible but very very hard with a great possibility of damaging the rope. I knew this rope was a little too fat (mm.12.5/mm.13) and as i don't feel doing any mods to the bone and it's about time to use a proper rope I will get one soon. Has anyone ever tried the bone with Poison Hi Vee Yale cordage? Would it milk too much? Any suggestions? I wouldn't think going with anything less than mm.11.7, unless I get really convinced otherwise. I see most of you like the Tachyon which is mm.11.5...really don't know!!! I would've got the cougar blue but it's difficult to find...need help!!!
 
If you aren't going to mod, tach or cougar is probably your best best. The guys using the big boy rope have all modded the bone to make it work.....at least I *think* they all had to mod it.
 
JTree said:
If you aren't going to mod, tach or cougar is probably your best best. The guys using the big boy rope have all modded the bone to make it work.....at least I *think* they all had to mod it.
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Thanks JTree!!!better a 24 strands or 16? And if, where to find cougar? It's out of stock at treestuff...
 
Tico, you might try this with the 13mm line if you have not already; install the rope on the bottom arm first like this, swivel the friction link up to the spine and then roll the rope into the notch and then push the friction link down onto the arm, then repeat with the upper arm. Take the rope off in the opposite order. Also you may want to try it with no bollard at all on the 13mm rope.
 
Crazy_Jimmy said:
I used the bone with this rope today and it was way better , hardly any drag, easy to tend, ascenders rode up smoother on my haas and pantin and wasn't stretchy as tachyon. But that was just one climb, I will try it more and formulate a real opinion .
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I'm wondering if you've had a chance to climb some more on the Blue Craze. Any additional feedback on it? Thanks
 
I thought I saw that someone was going to try Cherry Bomb also. It was either the BDB or the RR, curious how that handles the friction. I thought I remembered that it glazed pretty easy with a prussik cord.
 
Tico said:
...Has anyone ever tried the bone with Poison Hi Vee Yale cordage? Would it milk too much? Any suggestions? I wouldn't think going with anything less than mm.11.7, unless I get really convinced otherwise. I see most of you like the Tachyon which is mm.11.5...really don't know!!! I would've got the cougar blue but it's difficult to find...need help!!!
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Treestuff has Cougar Grey and Orange in stock and when i asked a few days ago, they are expecting the Blue later this month.

I'm a big fan of the Yale 11.7's which are all color variations of the same rope. I happen to have Aztec in both the green and orange. It performs well with the 3/4" bollard. I haven't noticed any milking with it. I feel it is easier to moderate my descent speed with the Aztec than with Tachyon.
 
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