Canopy Anchors and the Texas Tug

I'd maybe capture the revolver in a slip knot instead of an AB so that it says in proper orientation. Other wise it might flop around and eliminate the advantage of using a pulley.

The bottom knot doesn't need to be a secure achor knot as it's not life support.
 
Yea I was thinking a girth or clove hitch but it might not fit. Slip knot could be the solution
 
I don't use delta link anymore because I've dammage the bark on the tree at several occasions. And I had problem with the pinto binner set up chocked on the spar. So the texas tug method is what I use sometime during pruning climb. But I do it with a DMM hitch climber instead. And like SoftBank.... said it , if you put the pulley to close from the knot it won't really help. But when you start to work the top of the tree sometime it could be frustrating to ave the pulley interfere with your climbing systeme. What I do is put the pulley in just before I'm ready to swing to another location or descend a bit.

 
flying french man said:
I don't use delta link anymore because I've dammage the bark on the tree at several occasions. And I had problem with the pinto binner set up chocked on the spar. So the texas tug method is what I use sometime during pruning climb. But I do it with a DMM hitch climber instead. And like SoftBank.... said it , if you put the pulley to close from the knot it won't really help. But when you start to work the top of the tree sometime it could be frustrating to ave the pulley interfere with your climbing systeme. What I do is put the pulley in just before I'm ready to swing to another location or descend a bit.

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minimalist with novelty..yet can you imagine being up in the Tree a ways and feeding all that line through the plates .....
 
Treetopflyer said:
minimalist with novelty..yet can you imagine being up in the Tree a ways and feeding all that line through the plates .....
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When I used this technique I pull my climbing line with a pull line 8mm , so in a small bag I have the hclimber and 80 foot of 8mm rope on my saddle. I set up the hclimber on the climbing line so I feed like 4 to 6 foot of line threw it and then connect the pull line and drop the bag to the ground... Not a perfect method that for shure , just a other option available for us.
 
flying french man said:
When I used this technique I pull my climbing line with a pull line 8mm , so in a small bag I have the hclimber and 80 foot of 8mm rope on my saddle. I set up the hclimber on the climbing line so I feed like 4 to 6 foot of line threw it and then connect the pull line and drop the bag to the ground... Not a perfect method that for shure , just a other option available for us.
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That changes everything!!! I was going off the PIC! Used how you described now makes for much more diserable.. I was gonna throw it out there ,but got lazy on the typing.. Glad you said it ..
 
Treetopflyer said:
minimalist with novelty..yet can you imagine being up in the Tree a ways and feeding all that line through the plates .....
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I was aware of that too Treetop; though it does open up the possibility of tying another sort of micro pulley mid-line onto the working end - basically eliminating the need for a biner/connector. Grab your pulleys (I don't have any) - start trying different knots! : )
 
Texas Tug provides fair leed to the Delta and the efficiency of the Pinto eases the mechanical disadvantage experienced in pulling the redirects. It also eliminates fears some have of side loading the Pinto directly or using an Omni next to the TIP.
 
I'm a gear horder. I had to cleanse the bag and I took all the stuff that hadn't come out of the bag in almost a year and sold it. Just plain ole sold it. Now I'm buying it back, piece by piece. Places like treestuff don't have an off season because of people like me with a problem. I'm a creature of habit in a high demand production environment. Innovation is sterile there. I see nothing new anywhere but here. This is my learning platform. I have to say I am usually behind the curve on stuff because I don't have time to mess with it on a job site. However, eventually I catch up and get onboard. Having said that, I don't have a lot of room for gear I don't use. Aw crap, now I need a bigger truck
 
yoyoman said:
This may just simplify it all.
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In this example it's clear to me that the greatest source of resistance no matter what device (Quickie, Pinto, delta or something else) is added in, is the choke. Look at all that friction compared to the single redirect. More redirects adds up the friction but the choke has quite a bit of rope contact around the limb.
-AJ
 
True and sometimes that initial break away is the hardest part.
Its controversial so I did not post it much but what was easiest was the length of the pear shaped screw link with a Pinto pulley. The curvature of the pear shaped link where it connected to the Pinto virtually eliminated most sideloading as the Pinto would slide and rotate on the curvature of the screw link.
 
moss said:
In this example it's clear to me that the greatest source of resistance no ......, is the choke. ....
-AJ
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One more note: I have used RtoR to reduce that friction on the choke but then that has to get dragged thru the tree and if you have a "first redirect" like a revolver and pulley it of course will not clear.
When you add up the friction that you are trying to overcome to clear redirects, remember that the naturals or anything else you have on the other side of your primary anchor, is being cleared with a mechanical disadvantage of up to 1:2. So in my picture above, although that first natural redirect is not wrapped very far, it has the weight of the climbing line getting pulled at that 1:2 disadvantage.
 
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