bradford pear

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"This Debbie person should be banned from the forum as they are a complete fraud and false personality of another user."


So how about the dirt man. Who was it???

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Yep, I don't think accusations like that should be made without substantiation. I think X may be right but you can't fling words around like that without backing them up. ...and trolls don't deserve anonymity anyway.
 
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what's more over the top......his reaction or piss poor practices that make all Arbos look bad?

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Not trying to take away from your point, which is a damn good one, but hacks are just hacks, we see their work everywhere. At this point it's unclear whether this Debbie person is an arborist, a landscaper, a business manager or just a troll. If she whacks the top off the Bradford then she's a hack just like the other hacks.

I'll say this, it was obvious as hell to me that Stephan was kidding. A thick skin will take you far when communicating on the net, so will knowing your sources. How many times have you seen Stephan ACTUALLY attack or slander a fellow buzzer... besides... maybe... Masterblaster. NONE. There's your sign.
 
WE know all of those points to be true. does the general public? this is a public forum read by anyone, and picked up by search engines.

ill bet X got nervous about those facts, and reacted.....angrily. but he has a valid reason, he doesn't want his name tarnished.


SZ is a jokester, this time he made someone angry, it happens. he corrected it and its all better now.
 
Been out all weekend. I can't believe this is started again. I truly am fascinated by the fervor this bradford pear thing creates. It is the same rants by the same people making sure that everyone knows exactly where they stand on the topic....again and again. As soon as I saw the topic, I knew I could count on Hollen, cutten, and X to take the opportunity to jump on me one more time. It's ok with me, and people say all kinds of things about me on here, but you will never hear me threaten a preposterous lawsuit for what was obviously a joke. This is exactly why I participate here less and less; the egos and constant instigation isn't my style. I'm glad Blinky is always around to be the voice of reason.
 
What about me Noel? I havent been cruel or unreasonable??!!

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Can I trim a bradford pear that is 25' down to 10' and be sure it will survive?

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Is there a special time of year that in spite of this severity will insure it's survival?

[/ QUOTE ]Late summer will make less sprouting than late winter, which may be less stressful for the tree. Avoid spring and fall.

No reason to refuse this assignment that I can see, if aftercare is contracted. It can be accomplished without topping. One troll policy--play it straight; don't bite!
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Simple questions, simple answers. Let's cool the anti-topping passion. So much emotion expressed here by several that need to read ANSI so they have a clue wtf they are agonizing about. Otherwise all your dogma will be run over by karma.

Information anywhere can become inbred, as ideas are repeated back and forth like an echo chamber within an isolated group of people. Only by crosschecking your facts between a range of sources, experience and references can you confirm their reliability.
 
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I thought this thread was the older Bradford Pear thread...

There are rules to abide by.

There are standards to abide by.

Then there are opinions...


Here is a cynical question I'll propose:

Why can't we inform the customer of the poor structure of Bradfords, and then suggest remove and replace?

If they want to replace with a Bradford, then that would be okay. After all, they could have a professional trim the tree every 2-3 years and prevent inclusions, lateral branches getting larger than 50% the size of the trunk, subordinate vigorus leaders, isolate the center leader, etc...

It would then prove that topping doesn't have to be the solution to Bradfords...
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Thats just crazy talk! Why would anyone want to do that? Not what the customer asked for

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I don't know why anyone would want to do such a thing. That is why I asked a cynical quesion and proposed a hypothetical situation....
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I was being sarcastic. I think if the tree cant be structurally pruned, and reduced properly, remova and replcae is one of the options available.

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I thought so, but sarcasim is best executed when in person and we can read non-verbal ques. It is lost via the interweb...
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Wow, Xman. Way too over the top. Calm down, Beavis.

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yes, it was over the top.

I trimmed things up now; as well did EZ and I appreciate that.

thanks EZ you joker.
 
If we are erasing bull crap posts about topping then why shouldn't mine be removed as well, Ed and others decided to try to slander my name so why shouldn't mine be removed?
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(I made an edit because I forgot to add my smiley face which was oh so important on my obviously informative and well thought out post. Don't forget kids, mike richards is better then you)
 
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As soon as I saw the topic, I knew I could count on Hollen, cutten, and X to take the opportunity to jump on me one more time.

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UUmmmmmm I didn't bring your name up at all. Besides your not the only one that thinks topping/shaping pears is ok, been told by others it's ok. Even heard rumors that this could become the norm for said trees.

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Ed and others decided to try to slander my name about topping

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UUUMMMM how's about you tell your boss not to put signs in the front yard of said jobs. I don't even have to say anything the picture speaks for itself.

What you want a sorry from me? I would if I was, suggest no signs on said jobs.?
 
Ed, seeing that I'm currently ignoring your post I can only guess at what you are saying. Let me know if I'm close.

Hello marc, how are things? Good I hope. I just wanted to take this opportunity to publicly apologize for wrongfully suspecting you in any wrong doing with the topped tree. You see, I lash out at others because I fear if I let anyone too close to me they might hurt me. I'm sorry for pushing you away and I hope that one day you and I can hang out and play hackie sack or whatever it is you crazy kids do now a days. Sincerly yours

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Was I close?

If so, I'd hang out with you any day ed, but I don't play hackie sack, I smoke methanphenamines. You are more then welcome to join me
 
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[.] but I don't play hackie sack, I smoke methanphenamines. You are more then welcome to join me

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...and eat peanut butter and crack sandwiches if I recall right.
 
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[.] but I don't play hackie sack, I smoke methanphenamines. You are more then welcome to join me

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...and eat peanut butter and crack sandwiches if I recall right.

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You have a wonderful memory my friend
 
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