bowline not as life support

Second the onion rings, I don't drink but I"ll take some wings and rings.....In really thought this thread could hit 20...but it's outta steam...folks are waning interest....the dreaded bowline...used today...life support....
 

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an alpine butterfly is not really meant to be loaded in the loop. the knot was designed to be able to take a damaged section of rope out of the climbing equation without cutting the rope. the use of the ab has increased over the years from its intended use.

Im sorry I could not let this statement go. After doing a brief internet search I found that this is not entirely true
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_loop
http://www.animatedknots.com/alpinebutterfly/
http://davidmdelaney.com/alpine-butterfly-loop/Alpine-butterfly-bend-loop.html
http://www.bwrs.org.au/sites/default/inline-files/1 main paper.pdf see page 18
 
hey if it works for you then fine. i still use it from time to time but only when knot :cool:being loaded hard. a bowline on a bight is very quick, easy to untie:D and secure also.
 
Hey Jeff funny that I use the AB SRT as a TIP both with the pinto and biner and also choked by itself....can't see a problem...what makes it a problem...just curious...I like using it....
 

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