Ban bamboo.

oldoakman said:
If my memory serves me correctly, (And I'm getting to the age where it can play nasty tricks on me), the Callery Pear and its other brethren were developed in Ohio nurseries. I find that somewhat ironic.
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Entirely plausible. Obviously Cleveland Select was from Cleveland. It was supposed to offer better structure than Bradford. Which it is, but that's kinda like saying dog pile B smells not as bad as dog pile A.

That also started the problem...each variety is not self fertile. When they were all Bradford they were advertised as fruitless - that was one of the desirable features. Once new cultivars were introduced they started propagating with each other.
 
ATH said:
Entirely plausible. Obviously Cleveland Select was from Cleveland. It was supposed to offer better structure than Bradford. Which it is, but that's kinda like saying dog pile B smells not as bad as dog pile A.

That also started the problem...each variety is not self fertile. When they were all Bradford they were advertised as fruitless - that was one of the desirable features. Once new cultivars were introduced they started propagating with each other.
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First I laughed at your poop joke, and then I laughed at the incredible irony in the origin story of the plague of jizz pears. 5 stars.
 
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flushcut said:
Has anybody been successful in containing bamboo?
I have one custy who has a patch and they aren’t the best at managing it. I keep pushing for full removal scorched earth style.
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My old neighbors managed to erase a huge infestation without any herbicide. It had crossed the road via a silted up culvert and was invading another property.

The prescription was manual cutting as low as possible followed by over a year of solarization with huge mats of rolled rubber roofing. Impressive effort, and lots of tiki structures around the hood.
 
ATH said:
What else will you kill in the soil at those temps?
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Depends on your methodology. The search showed results indicating that a modest 100⁰f soil temp would achieve the desired effect, and soil biology does extremely well in temps up to 160⁰f. Using fully boiling water is challenging, as the temp starts dropping as soon as it's taken off the heat, and it cools rapidly when mixed into a much cooler media. I would wager that if you have a patch to kill, not just a neatly isolated clump, the effects on any other plant are gonna be very minimal, and the microbiology will likely be very stimulated, although the profile of the upper rhizosphere will tip heavily into a bacteria dominance until the fungal colonies recover, but even that won't take long in the grand scheme of things. I think this is a actually a great non-toxic approach to start with, and I feel embarassed for not coming up with it first.
 
If 100° killed bamboo, it seems like it could never grow in a sunny spot anywhere in the southern United States. Heck, I'm in Northern Ohio and we will get days that touch 100° in the shade periodically. Obviously depth is a big consideration. And like you said boiling water will cool down pretty quickly.
 
100⁰ soil temp is very different than air temp. Air temps don't reach more than a few inches into the soil. Typical soil temps are in the 60's during the growth phase, and sub grade temps are waaay more stable than above
 
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Matias said:
100⁰ soil temp is very different than air temp. Air temps don't reach more than a few inches into the soil. Typical soil temps are in the 60's during the growth phase, and sub grade temps are waaay more stable than above
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Right ...but I was thinking it'd also be hard to get 100° with boiling water more than an inch or so... especially in any kind of volume enough to do much good. Might kill a patch, but those rhizomes will be grown back before you get the next pot boiled LOL.

With the sunlight, I'm just picturing the all day intense sun in Florida beating down on open grown bamboo all July and August and the plant being happy about that. Maybe not FL...the rain will cool the soil every day...TX. Is bamboo bad in TX?

Water is worth a try for sure. I just have doubts.
 
Is part of solarization eg with black colored covering denial of light for photosynthesis so you can kill live growth but dormants like seeds and other things not requiring light are only temperature affected?
 
ATH said:
Right ...but I was thinking it'd also be hard to get 100° with boiling water more than an inch or so... especially in any kind of volume enough to do much good. Might kill a patch, but those rhizomes will be grown back before you get the next pot boiled LOL.

With the sunlight, I'm just picturing the all day intense sun in Florida beating down on open grown bamboo all July and August and the plant being happy about that. Maybe not FL...the rain will cool the soil every day...TX. Is bamboo bad in TX?

Water is worth a try for sure. I just have doubts.
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Instead of boiling water, find someone whose steams tobacco beds and have them go at it. If there are tobacco farmers in your area, they probably steam their beds. Around here they certainly do it, you'll see hundred year-old steam tractors out in the fields every spring.
 
Bart_ said:
Is part of solarization eg with black colored covering denial of light for photosynthesis so you can kill live growth but dormants like seeds and other things not requiring light are only temperature affected?
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I'm sure that's going to depend on a couple factors... obviously some seeds tolerate high temps better. Also, it'll get really hot right under that, but again soil will be a good insulator so will depend on how deep those sensitive seeds are.
 
I thought that you were supposed to use clear plastic and basically seal down the edges, creating a super shallow greenhouse, thereby heating the soil way beyond normally achieveable temps, but it has been a long while since I explored that concept.
 
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For what its worth. I have tried digging out poison oak, then pouring 2 gallons of boiled water onto the remainder of the tap root, and it still returns with a vengance. I doubt bamboo will give up any easier
 
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