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- Retired in Minneapolis
Of course there will be survivors. Kevin showed me some magnificent examples in Detroit. But comparing survivors to dead numbers I'm not optimistic
Ash riddle
- Thread starter KevinS
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treebing
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Detroit, Mi.
They make a lot of seeds and they grow fast. Who knows what's going to happen to the beetle, can it sustain it's numbers without something discovering it's tasty. What does Eab do without ash trees to chew.
JeffGu
Been here much more than a while
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- Osceola, Nebraska
They hang out at McDonald's for a few days, just long enough to figure out that none of that crap is edible, then they go looking for a White Fringetree to munch on.
treebing
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Detroit, Mi.
There are epidemics and plagues that sweep through. Detroit was was way over planted with ash trees when the bug got off the boat in down river detroit. The mistake was made to replace every elm tree with an ash tree. This mistake continues to be made consistently everywhere I see mass plantings. The Eab reached epic proportions very quickly and is sweeping through everywhere else.
I do not really know what is happening in the forest lands, most every tree is dead it seems, but I haven't spent too much time looking. In the suburbs I rarely see survivors unless they were treated. All the cities cleared them all, every last one, all except detroit. I live in a neighborhood with quite a number of living ashes, 15 miles from the EAB epicenter.
I do not really know what is happening in the forest lands, most every tree is dead it seems, but I haven't spent too much time looking. In the suburbs I rarely see survivors unless they were treated. All the cities cleared them all, every last one, all except detroit. I live in a neighborhood with quite a number of living ashes, 15 miles from the EAB epicenter.
Lucky the root plate came with it, we've done some if they're 16" dbh they'll lift out maybe 20" of root plug. The roots crap out just as much as the top.
John_KAYS
Carpal tunnel level member
- Location
- Eastern PA
I was just naming something that defoliates ash trees every other year...well every year to be exact. I was trying to answer your riddle...
treevet
Branched out member
- Location
- Cincinnati, Ohio
We were right after Detroit in the path of eab. I do Ash removals or multiples on a daily basis...yesterday, today and tomorrow. You have to be very careful where you anchor your rigging line and hopefully are not tied into that leader. Not long ago I had a truck tied to a stem and was gassing up the saw to notch and drop. The whole 24" dbh tree just broke off and fell without a cut. It is just becoming real dangerous around here and many are too cheap to get them down in a timely fashion. The city govt. is not intervening.
It was a smaller tree but it had a back lean so we hooked up the 5:1 b&t notched and back cut but left a bit too much hinge and when we pulled it twisted and fell in the ground notch did nothing, it moved at the weakest link.
treebing
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Detroit, Mi.
Took this on a bike ride this morning with my daughter. One of the few places for hundreds of miles where you can still find ash lined streets lol. You may say they don't look too good but they are competing quite well with lindens, silver maples and other beat up neglected street trees. Definitly not 100% mortality. Alive is Alive.
We have some nice ones to I'm not out too erase all ash. I'm all for keeping the good but at the same time the bad gtg
- Location
- Retired in Minneapolis
Thanks for the Tree Tour Kevin. I'm going to have to rethink my pessimism.
treevet
Branched out member
- Location
- Cincinnati, Ohio
My bet is they were treated esp. that last one on your left re Treebing vid. You may not have known they were treated. I am finding that one treatment said to last a year and they decide not to treat...has a residual well beyond that.
treebing
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Detroit, Mi.
No way these were treated.
TimBr
Official Well Known Greeter
- Location
- Northern Virginia
It seems like natural selection at work. Have a really virulent disease come through and almost wipe out an entire population of anything, and the ones that remain are likely to have survived because of a genetic anomoly that gave them resistance. Future generations will likely be resistant also.
Detroit may be inadvertantly finding all of the EAB resistant trees that are available. Maybe university scientists or money motivated tree breeders should gather samples from Detroit and see if they really are EAB resistant.
Tim
TimBr
Official Well Known Greeter
- Location
- Northern Virginia
Everything will ultimately die. The question is, will these survivors die of EAB, or old age.
Tim
treebing
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Detroit, Mi.
No, these probably came from the one or two varieties planted all across the Midwest after the elm collapse. My guess is they may be genetic identicals. Just like the honey locust. I'm not sure the story. The companies I worked for operated under the pretext. 100% mortality either treat it or cut it down. Municipalities cut them down as procedure. Some of the richer communities treated. Detroit didn't do anything.
I remember cutting live ash trees down thinking they were not quite dead. I am sure that customer could well have appreciated it for another ten twelve years at least.
Still a horrible tragedy. I keep looking for a monster ash survivor and I have not.
I remember cutting live ash trees down thinking they were not quite dead. I am sure that customer could well have appreciated it for another ten twelve years at least.
Still a horrible tragedy. I keep looking for a monster ash survivor and I have not.
treebing
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Detroit, Mi.
There is a big ash I did
treebing
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Detroit, Mi.
Don't see any big guys like this
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JontreeHI
Branched out member
- Location
- West Michigan lakeshore
From what I've seen in and around my hometown, grand haven, on the west side, there are acres and acres of dead ash in the forest.
Mass plantings and no treatment around the city, I don't think I saw one live ash last time I was there.
Lots of oak death too.
Edit: lots of life ash, none that I can recall unaffected. Possibly important clarification there
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TimBr
Official Well Known Greeter
- Location
- Northern Virginia
Just horrific.
