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That large crack is a BIG ISSUE.. I saw it originally and should have paid it more attention. Looks like he had too much pull on the system, which is pretty easy to do with that kind of pulling force combined with such a high tie off point.

If it started to split down the trunk, it cold have just as easily barber chaired. That would have been really bad.!

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THAT'S what I wanted you all to see. I'd say you got lucky on this one. But luck has a way of running oiut if you push it. Be careful and learn from this young man.
 
I've dropped some pretty big royals ( palm that is ) does that count? Never seen a barber chair though and I hope never to. I'm usually out of there by then anyhow.
 
Buddy looks who talking. Try to explain that avatar pic. Upside down or right side up, it just ain't right. I listen to or respect where it's due. Not going to learn anything from a donkey farting.
 
Why can't we learn from each other as professionals without it being reduced to name calling? That is the point in posting tree work video isn't it, to gain a different perspective and become better at what we do.
No one is perfect and we can all be better and safer.
 
Perhaps questions should be phrased to really ask a question and not try to point out a person's poor workmanship. That's a problem here is that there's people pretending to know it all but they really don't at all. Example guy makes a video of filing a chain and drags the file on the back stroke. It's a crazy world we live in. I always say "whatever you can think of, its happening somewhere."
 
Like I said, I was just trying to help. No offense intended, just my observations from 30+ years of experience. This old donkey is going off to fart somewhere else for a while. C ya.
 
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... Apparently Norm doesn't know either. I think he's a pro trainer. That speaks volumes to the state of our industry. Might sound arrogant, but its just calling a spade a spade

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It's about damn time someone called uncle Norm out on the fact that he doesn't know anything about anything and is bringing our industry down with him. Bravo, Danny, for having the balls to call it like you see it.

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... Apparently Norm doesn't know either. I think he's a pro trainer. That speaks volumes to the state of our industry. Might sound arrogant, but its just calling a spade a spade

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It's about damn time someone called uncle Norm out on the fact that he doesn't know anything about anything and is bringing our industry down with him. Bravo, Danny, for having the balls to call it like you see it.

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Oh Oh EZ got Dadio in the corner ropes looks like another blow to the head. The D man must be feeling it by now.
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So what's the why of the deep cut?

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How about changing that question slightly and asking "why are his notches too deep".. so far Norm and JlinKY have said the face cut(s) looked (a little) too deep.. J's explanation for this is "The tree had decay present in the hinge and a shallower facecut would've left more solid hinge. " However J's original post said "face cuts (looked a little too deep)", which is plural, so why were the other face cuts too deep.. I particularly liked the second face cut from the lift, which looked a little more than 50%... The depth of the notch on the ash fall was somewhat irrelevant IMO..

As far as trying to get the entire hinge in front of the decay, that didn't look like an easy task on that tree.. looks like no more than 3" of good wood in front of that decay.. you could put a real shallow notch (1-2" DEEP) in if it was needed, but it wasn't needed, as there wasn't much chance of this tree going wrong.. the only thing that would have caused his hinge to fail was side weight.. A LOT of side weight, which there wasn't.. And Ricky might not have been aware of the decay when he started cutting..

So what do you all think about his notch from the lift? It was at least 50%.. Was it too deep and if so why?
 
My question didnt just refer to his particular cut.

IT is as stated...What are the reasons for a deeper cut notch. By answering the question we might be able to understand when they are appropriate to use. All I have seen is banter. An explanation of the practical use for a deep vs another type of notch would be more beneficial than more questions and side stepping of the answer.
 

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