Anyone Else Using The Knut Hitch???

Over the past few years I have tried all the popular new closed loop hitches. I have finally settled on the Knut on my lanyard and as my climbing hitch. The Knut runs as easily as the VT, is a lot easier to tie and auto-sets very well.


Seems that the Knut is not used that much.


So who out there is using the knut hitch???
 
The Knut is King!!! --It rocks!! It loosens easily, it grabs easily, it tends easily, it doesn't build up much heat or glaze the rope with HRC, and can even shine your shoes!--oops sorry.
In my book it is unbeatable especially with the HRC cord.
 
One new convert coming up.

I'm going to give it a try tomorrow. I've been using the Vt for two years.
 
Icesicle is what Ken talks about if that's the right spelling.
I'm going to give the knut a try this week.
 
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TK is similar, slightly different charachteristics, along with cord, rope and climbing charachteristics all being different. 1 frustrating aspect of VT is the braids can lose position when splitting, recrotching etc.

Either the TK or Knut 'finish' under the VT braids can lend some self tending capabilities as well as not unwrap if retying in. (Theorizing all the hitches as a family that has a 3-4 uniterupted coil at top for too much stop; as base mechanichs. Then only varying the particular finish to buffer loading to coil on top (from between you as load and coil so underneath). The finish under the coil make VT, Knut, TK, Distel, Schwab, Icicle, Howard, Klem, Heden etc. that coil won't sieze on. The chosen finish buffering loading to the could-sieze-if overloaded-coil on top that they all share. Siezing meaning won't act right, mostly siezing as not to slide like we like.

Seeing as all are related, once familiar feel safer jumping around trying them i think. Easier to remember too, make coil completet with half hitch in same direction like clove/tautine have distel. Reverse that final half hitch to finish like cow/prusik you have Schwab. Where half hitch makes Knut; Marline Hitch finish makes TK.

i still favour the Icicle. Self tending, doesn't unwrap like VT(didn't like it as a finish to VT though). Still favoring using it in coreless 3/8 Tenex so it lays flat on the host line to grip. All kinds of variants to try combinations of, even down to the flat vs. round line!

A 100# person in SRT, can't slide on same hitch and line up and down as we in DdRT. i used to think that was becasue there is only 50# per line in DdRT(vs. 100# in SRT), so hitch slides. But 300# will slide on the DdRT with same hitch,cord, hostline, that won't slide at 100# in SRT.

As if we had 2 lines lowering a log, the stiffer line, the less elastic, stronger, tighter line will always work harder. If 1 line starts to fail, the other line instantly carries the excess of load. By the scales, when we pull down on the friction hitch in DdRT, the weight shifts off the hitch to the other leg of line. The 'expanding line' running thru the hitch, is essentially failing; and his buddy the other line takes the load instantly. The hitch unloads as the other leg of line carries you, the unloaded hitch slides, not a hitch only loaded half as much. In SRT there is no buddy line/ helper line, as the system tries to still support you, it has no other choice, no other support strategy, than to tighten bottom coils as you try to slide top etc.

When the self tending styles are more loaded, they need to be lightly redressed; they aren't quite as smooth as mechanical tender i think, real nice in combination. Mostly use self tending going up at first, so i try not to let my bodyweight be multiplied force on the hitch too much or redress mebbe. So if i impact line, or make support me at angle on way up i'll check hitch. To see if the increased loading of speed or angle on the hitch maid it less friendly for primary climb.

Gettin'Hitched
 
Some climbers are so rigid in their views of "change."

I embrace anything that makes my job easier!!!

I know I don't work "full-time" in this industry. I work 20 to 24 hrs. "part-time." Nevertheless I like to try new things, I can always revert back to what I was using!!!
 
I found a picture of the XT on how it is tied. How does it perform on the climbing line compared to a plain Jane tied F. P.?? Haven't tried it, looks like it would stiffen it up by the coils so it would not need so much minding to get it to grip.

Larry
 
Leon, My scanner is not working at the present. I hope this will do, this is my gear tied by the way it looks in the pic I have. I hope I'm doing this right, the difference is where the coils end and the braids start. Doesn't seem to be that bad of a hitch, from just playing with it. Personally, I like to finish the FP with that Knut style hitch on the end, to eliminate that ugly kink at the end of the braids so it feeds straight into the pulley. Wonder how this set-up would work using both features, XT with a Knut finish.

Larry
 

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