A new kind of aching hurting feeling

Phil

Phil

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Ok everyone, I became sick while working last wednesday and have never in my life had these symptoms. I am thinking lymes disease and was wondering if anyone here has had it before and if their symptoms were similar to mine. Or maybe someone has had my symptoms and the diagnosis was different.

Here is whats going on: I work line clearance so have ticks on me on a regular basis. I woke up wednesday morning with a very tender knuckle on my pointer finger. There is no swelling, discoloration or trauma to the knuckle. It just hurt one day. I can't peel a banana or twist open a bottle of pop. About 3 pm wednesday i start feeling like crap and have the guy im working with drive the truck back at the end of the day. Thursday i skip work because i am clearly sick and a new symptom has hit me. My entire body feels like i just trained non stop for 48 hrs for the olympics. Every muscle is sore, in a bad way. I have had cramps from heat exhaustion and dehydration before, this was not caused by that. I don't have muscle cramps, the muscles just feel over worked. We took it easy at work this week because it was overly hot out and although most people will still point towards heat exhaustion, i am confident that is not the cause. I went to the ER thursday night with a 102 temp. I went to the clinic friday, got a strep test, it was neg. My tonsils are swollen and it hurts when i swallow, no cough or congestion though. It saturday, the fever is gone, but my muscles ache just as bad as the first day. I can barely hold a half gallon of water or open the bottle of penicillin without cringing in pain.

I am most concerned about the muscle pain. My body has never hurt like this before. Its a struggle just to turn the steering wheel on my car. Has anyone experienced what im talking about? blood work should be back in a few days.
 
Had the flu for a week this winter with similar symptoms, felt like I got run over by a freight train, couldn't move, every muscle was sore, and weak, sore throat and slept 20 hours a day. I know its out of season but I think you can get the flu in the summer months.
 
I'm interested in hearing what you find out here. I work with a guy who was out some this week due to being sick. His symptoms weren't exactly like yours, but he did have some similar symptoms. They told him they weren't sure what was wrong with him but were treating him for Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever.
 
I had the same symptoms a week ago, from Friday until Monday. Fever, body aches, serious joint pain. The same thing had happened to me the summer of 07, too. I have just wrote it all off as heat exhaustion. Let us hear about the blood work, I may need to get some done.........
 
Forget the blood work.. I'd take it with a grain of salt as there are a LOT of false negatives with lyme testing.. My guess is that it will come back positive, BUT do not trust it if comes back negative.. Given those symptoms and the obvious exposure, there is no doubt in my mind, you have a tick bourne illness, probably lyme, possibly with co-infections... Take this very seriously..

Amoxycillin is the WRONG drug to take for lyme.. it causes the spirochete to morph into a systic form which then can be very difficult to treat.. I start on doxycycline, 100 mg every 12 hours (not on empty stomach), and run the couse differntly, depending on how long the tick was in me. If I have full blown symptoms NO LESS THAN 28 days.. Also note that calcium will bind with the doxy and render it useless, so no dairy or calcium supplments with the doxy..

I sometimes get fancy and surge the doxy to 200-300 mg doses sporatically throughout the tratment. This is recommended by the some of the most informed MDs.. The problem is that this is a fairly new disease and the information that is available to MDs is very limimted. Mds are so busy, they don;t have time to learn about this tricky and changing infectious disease. SO unless you are seeingf a lyme literate MD, you are at a much higher risk of long term complications..

If I just find a tick in me, I don't wait around for tests. If I pull a tick, I start on the doxy immediately.. I keep the frig loaded at all times.. If I catch it early, within 36 hours of the tick being in the body, I only take (2) 100 mg doses, spaced 12 hours apart. This is reported to be more than 95% effective.


Sometimes lyme appears to be nothing more than the flu.. then the body fights if off and you feel better, but the infections lingers and can be months or even years before it pops up agian. By that time, it has screwed with your immune system and gotten so deep into the body it becomes very difficult to treat with anti-biotics.. thus the stories of people that are on long term IV antibiotics..

This is a serious risk in the industry and exposing yourself to ticks is not worth the $$$... There are ways to limit exposure through proper clothing and deet etc..

I was scared of the grass for some years after I had it bad, in 98.. I wouldn't go any where near the woods then.. Now I AM OK with the woods, as long as I keep moving, but would never walk through a field of tall grass or truck through dense underbrush.. When you get that sick, it changes you..

Shame of it is that deer ticks came out of Plum island, military biological research facility.. Its blow back.. paid for with our tax $$..

There is a lot more to it.. The ticks are stating to carry all kinds of stuff.. Anyone that thins they have a tick bourne illness should do their own homework on line.. Lots of good sites out there..
 
terrible disease, thanks for sharing you experience daniel. Definitely has me terrified because I love exploring off the beaten path. arent the deer ticks very difficult to see and even know if you have gotten one?
 
If you want to go holistic as well as antibiotic, start taking Japanese Knotweed. Either as extract or powder or tincture. Helped my wife immensely and is natural so you cannot screw it up.
 
I have lyme disease and when I get a tick afixed to me and I have symptoms I call my Doctor and he runs various tick borne illness tests and prescribes the doxycyline hyclat for twenty one days..My vet does the same for my dogs.

Last November I had a load of mulch in the truck for four days and when I unloaded it (by hand) I got a feeling like you just described and it was a allergic lung reaction (a type of poisoning) caused by the bacteria in the leaf mold. I was told I had lung disease and went through a troubled couple of months until all was tested and confirmed to be as I had thought (it was the mulch).

Call the doctor and ask him to run tests and do not settle for we don't know.
 
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Daniels post pretty much says it all.

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Like an internet advice...be cautious.

Talk to someone with experience and skill.

How many threads are there about bad arbo advice? Is there something similar here?
 
My father has lyme's disease and it's shown me how serious of a disease it is without very much research or support behind it.

Daniel is correct, don't get a test from any old doctor, find one that is "lyme literate" if you get tested at all.
 
Definitely get it checked out. Our engineering dept had a field inspector that got it and eventually it caused her complete disability. Two years ago my wife showed the first stages of it with the target rash. I called the doc and he started her on doxy immediately. so far all ok. Don't screw around, get it checked.
 
True, I've never heard of varying the doses, but doxycyclin is the right antibiotic for it. And the fear of tick borne illness was well conveyed, and also that blood tests really don't matter much as frequently they come back neg when you are in fact sick.

Nasty, nasty stuff. Its taken out some strong treemen, some permanently.
 
The way I would describe it's energy sapping effect is to say that Lyme makes merely sitting in a chair far too taxing, lying down is the only option, for days at a time, completely shot.
 
Which makes you wonder how these people who have had it for weeks or months or even years undiagnosed, how they survived.
 
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Forget the blood work.. I'd take it with a grain of salt as there are a LOT of false negatives with lyme testing.. My guess is that it will come back positive, BUT do not trust it if comes back negative.. Given those symptoms and the obvious exposure, there is no doubt in my mind, you have a tick bourne illness, probably lyme, possibly with co-infections... Take this very seriously..

Amoxycillin is the WRONG drug to take for lyme.. it causes the spirochete to morph into a systic form which then can be very difficult to treat.. I start on doxycycline, 100 mg every 12 hours (not on empty stomach), and run the couse differntly, depending on how long the tick was in me. If I have full blown symptoms NO LESS THAN 28 days.. Also note that calcium will bind with the doxy and render it useless, so no dairy or calcium supplments with the doxy..

I sometimes get fancy and surge the doxy to 200-300 mg doses sporatically throughout the tratment. This is recommended by the some of the most informed MDs.. The problem is that this is a fairly new disease and the information that is available to MDs is very limimted. Mds are so busy, they don;t have time to learn about this tricky and changing infectious disease. SO unless you are seeingf a lyme literate MD, you are at a much higher risk of long term complications..

If I just find a tick in me, I don't wait around for tests. If I pull a tick, I start on the doxy immediately.. I keep the frig loaded at all times.. If I catch it early, within 36 hours of the tick being in the body, I only take (2) 100 mg doses, spaced 12 hours apart. This is reported to be more than 95% effective.


Sometimes lyme appears to be nothing more than the flu.. then the body fights if off and you feel better, but the infections lingers and can be months or even years before it pops up agian. By that time, it has screwed with your immune system and gotten so deep into the body it becomes very difficult to treat with anti-biotics.. thus the stories of people that are on long term IV antibiotics..

This is a serious risk in the industry and exposing yourself to ticks is not worth the $$$... There are ways to limit exposure through proper clothing and deet etc..

I was scared of the grass for some years after I had it bad, in 98.. I wouldn't go any where near the woods then.. Now I AM OK with the woods, as long as I keep moving, but would never walk through a field of tall grass or truck through dense underbrush.. When you get that sick, it changes you..

Shame of it is that deer ticks came out of Plum island, military biological research facility.. Its blow back.. paid for with our tax $$..

There is a lot more to it.. The ticks are stating to carry all kinds of stuff.. Anyone that thins they have a tick bourne illness should do their own homework on line.. Lots of good sites out there..

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Man am I glad I live all he way up here.
 
Daniel said:
Forget the blood work.. I'd take it with a grain of salt as there are a LOT of false negatives with lyme testing.. My guess is that it will come back positive, BUT do not trust it if comes back negative.. Given those symptoms and the obvious exposure, there is no doubt in my mind, you have a tick bourne illness, probably lyme, possibly with co-infections... Take this very seriously..

Amoxycillin is the WRONG drug to take for lyme.. it causes the spirochete to morph into a systic form which then can be very difficult to treat.. I start on doxycycline, 100 mg every 12 hours (not on empty stomach), and run the couse differntly, depending on how long the tick was in me. If I have full blown symptoms NO LESS THAN 28 days.. Also note that calcium will bind with the doxy and render it useless, so no dairy or calcium supplments with the doxy..

I sometimes get fancy and surge the doxy to 200-300 mg doses sporatically throughout the tratment. This is recommended by the some of the most informed MDs.. The problem is that this is a fairly new disease and the information that is available to MDs is very limimted. Mds are so busy, they don;t have time to learn about this tricky and changing infectious disease. SO unless you are seeingf a lyme literate MD, you are at a much higher risk of long term complications..

If I just find a tick in me, I don't wait around for tests. If I pull a tick, I start on the doxy immediately.. I keep the frig loaded at all times.. If I catch it early, within 36 hours of the tick being in the body, I only take (2) 100 mg doses, spaced 12 hours apart. This is reported to be more than 95% effective.


Sometimes lyme appears to be nothing more than the flu.. then the body fights if off and you feel better, but the infections lingers and can be months or even years before it pops up agian. By that time, it has screwed with your immune system and gotten so deep into the body it becomes very difficult to treat with anti-biotics.. thus the stories of people that are on long term IV antibiotics..

This is a serious risk in the industry and exposing yourself to ticks is not worth the $$$... There are ways to limit exposure through proper clothing and deet etc..

I was scared of the grass for some years after I had it bad, in 98.. I wouldn't go any where near the woods then.. Now I AM OK with the woods, as long as I keep moving, but would never walk through a field of tall grass or truck through dense underbrush.. When you get that sick, it changes you..

Shame of it is that deer ticks came out of Plum island, military biological research facility.. Its blow back.. paid for with our tax $$..

There is a lot more to it.. The ticks are stating to carry all kinds of stuff.. Anyone that thins they have a tick bourne illness should do their own homework on line.. Lots of good sites out there..
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This is an old thread, I just wanted to thank Daniel for his post, and the TreeBuzz forum owners for hosting this site that allows such information to persist.

Tim
 
Apparently limes disease has been around a while (Ice Man). Pretty amazing that we still don't have accurate testing for the disease.

Some time ago I had horrible pneumonia like symptoms for three years. Aching all over, thick mucus, swollen limp nodes the size of walnuts, and chronic fatigue. I was tested for Limes disease two or three times but the tests always came back negative. The Doc. put me on antibiotics and I started feeling better. Never did find out what it was, but I have a hunch it came from a tick.
 
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