WTF?

I had to opportunity to teach with Don and enjoy sitting with him and his wife at dinner. I was quiet as a church mouse listening and learning. Really interesting guy. So much knowledge
 
Don's a very generous and knowledgeable dude no doubt.

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Sweet Daisy Dukes Jemco!!!

Portolla Valley I believe? Yet another cool place that has been destroyed by rich white folk.

I have a buddy who was a Menlo Park fireman. He did a 4 day on 4 day off shift, so he would do a lot of tree work in the area on his days off. He would call me when he got a fun removal and I would head down there and climb for him, get drunk at the Dutch Goose after work, then do my best to talk some rich girl into having pity sex with me.....Good times bro...
 
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Sweet Daisy Dukes Jemco!!!

Portolla Valley I believe? Yet another cool place that has been destroyed by rich white folk.

I have a buddy who was a Menlo Park fireman. He did a 4 day on 4 day off shift, so he would do a lot of tree work in the area on his days off. He would call me when he got a fun removal and I would head down there and climb for him, get drunk at the Dutch Goose after work, then do my best to talk some rich girl into having pity sex with me.....Good times bro...
Did you ever score?
 
What with all the cocaine and liquor I honestly can't remember Oak? I do remember getting home from one of those trips and having to go to the doctor and find out why it hurt so bad when I peed?
 
According to Don, that's the original EucMan bar we shook hands at.

There's alotta big eucs in that area for sure.

Kinduva Ken Johnson county......

I love that vid of Ken destroyin a GRCS and bending a Hobb's with a wrecked Volvo dropped onto them.

Jemco
 
According to Don, that's the original EucMan bar we shook hands at.

There's alotta big eucs in that area for sure.

Kinduva Ken Johnson county......

I love that vid of Ken destroyin a GRCS and bending a Hobb's with a wrecked Volvo dropped onto them.

Jemco
I just ran into Ken about a month ago. We chanted for about 15-20 minutes. Other than his fucked up knees he seemed good, looked good, had a pretty lady with him, and is still sporting that righteous Waynes World hairdo! Cool dude for sure.......
 
I remember droolin over his 4X4 custom green Chevy Tooltruck!

Winches front n back, custom rack with lockdown tubes for your polesaws n long skinny stuff.

It had that military no nonsense utilitarian look to it, in stark contrast to the long haired hippy lookin Guy drivin it!

I suspect Ken's still got it......

Jemco
 
This outfit seriously need to go learn how to cut. He seems completely unwilling to have a constructive conversation which might benefit his viewers so I figured we here might be able to learn from his mistakes.
He tell us that he just wasn't able to get this spar to swing to the right because the tree was dead, resulting in a smashed tree. Fucking nonsense. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that he left his hinge way too fat on the downhill side and too thin on the uphill side (10:19). Bass fucking ackwards folks. We wont talk about the peanut gallery that is once again hand pulling on the tagline. One of them can be seen videoing with one hand while pulling with the other hand during the entire pulling process.
I think I'm gonna send these boys a Masdaam rope puller and a copy of Douglas Dents timber falling book for Christmas. I suppose it cant hurt?

 
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Yet another so-called pro posting up subpar work, then blocking comments that are less than complimentary. So much for standing behind your work and being willing to have a constructive conversation that might benefit your viewers? Fucking YouTube!!!


So a supposed reputable pro outfit shows up to pull over a couple dead Birch trees, but doesn't have a rope puller or some other system which will deliver a smooth consistent pull. OK then? Instead they rely on a couple dudes standing in the street yanking on the tagline. As the video show these boys didn't have a fucking clue what they were doing. They do a little test pull (9:18-9:40) and you can see that they get very little movement. Despite this the faller say "I think you can do it?" Way to instill some confidence bro. He then cuts a dangerously shallow undercut with a painfully dull saw, and never once sights his undercut or checks it for bypass. What was needed here was a deeper undercut which would of allowed the weight of the tree to get into its undercut earlier, and a more wide open face which would have allow the tree to further commit to its undercut before its hinge started to break. He then starts his back-cut and you can see the tree rocking back and forth (9:38-9:55). This is because the clowns on the tagline are pulling and then allowing slack back into the system. A great fucking way to break your hinge and loose a tree over backward. The poor execution of a poor game plan then forced the faller to leave the stump to help assist in the pulling of this little back-leaning Birch. When the tree begins to go over (11:18- 11:30) you can see the shallow under cut begin to close bringing the tree to a stop. They then pull harder and the undercut completely close up, breaks the remaining hinge, and the tree pulls hard to the right missing the lay of the undercut by many feet. Sheer luck prevented these amateurs from smashing something!
I don't have the patience for watching guys on the internet but I read your stuff a lot and when I see your analysis of videos, it draws me in to watch it.
You break em down good.
Keep doing this.
 
I don't have the patience for watching guys on the internet but I read your stuff a lot and when I see your analysis of videos, it draws me in to watch it.
You break em down good.
Keep doing this.
I guess I just came up in an environment and an atmosphere where cutting was heavily emphasized. Cutting was king, and climbing was the easy part when I was coming up. I like to watch vids of folks doing tree work, look past all the fluff, and see if they actually know what the fuck their doing with a saw. Unfortunately there seems to be an abundance of folks in the arb world with poor saw skills whom don't appear to have a good grasp on the fundamentals of sound falling methods.. Thank goodness there are folks like Reg, August, Dave Coleman, Mr Schultz, and others who are showing their viewers what kickass tree-work looks like.
 
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Another Stellar performance-

Stubs, stubs, and more stubs. We all know that leaving stubs is a recipe for shit getting hung up, creating a fucking nightmare for a climber. Stubs are also a sure sign that the climber isn't very comfortable in spurs and is using stubs as a comfort blanket.

Every time they lower brush or wood the groundie holds it tight, beating the shit out of the climber, then decides to let it run. Completely backwards, and would have been enough for me to bomb out of the tree and give someone as tongue lashing. This is the kind of groundwork that gets people hurt, shock loads ropes causing breakage, and gets stuff and people smashed.

More dull saws. Nuff said.

Employing the rookie mistake of using a wedge on the backside of your cut while cutting cookies. Just make your job harder folks. Someone really should show these fellas the teeter totter with some wedges trick.

Judging by the rope angle of the climbers line they could have easily rigged the lower portion of this tree to the nearby tree using a little holdback to keep things swinging smooth. This would have removed the need for cutting all those potato chip and having rounds bouncing around hitting things

The dude at the very end trying to pry the round loose from the log kinda says it all....


 
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3:56 "there's the porta-wrap" ....upside down. THAT is ballsey.
Yea. Right after the inverted porty he tells use that the chunks they were lowering weighed 600-700 lbs. Really? Hand pushing 700 lb chunks off that spar with no undercuts? Fucking nonsense. I would be shocked if that chunk they were lowering in the vid weighed more than 225 lbs. I also just heard him say that this little pine removal took them a day and a half. Surely he's yanking our chain? I know the area that this outfits operates in very well, and it is one of the most affluent high dollar communities in America. I can only imagine what he charged his clients after they he spent a day and a half on this 4-5 hour tree?
 
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Theres a time and place for cookies, but I am agreement that this was probably to stretch the job. If my saw was blunt I would rig bigger if I had the gear to do it - If it was sharp I may be tempted to do cookies in order to facilitate easy and quick carting to the truck, or single handling firewood cuts, but I would have thrown onto brush or another cookie to stop the ground getting thrashed.

What I do see is trying to navigate a bigger saw near life line that just seems to get in the way. Both climbers did this. I would have tossed the lifeline and just used lanyards, picking up the lifeline once on the ground again, or if leaving the stump had a groundy swing it back when I finished cutting down the spar. Dull chain can be hot and reason enough not to do it.

In some ways good on them for establishing a market with their skills and getting paid, their customers like you say may not care about the bill - probably have gift of the gab too.

Not so good producing videos with so many errors - the worst being the porta-wrap (good spot @Serf Life - I can see some unknowing person trying to emulate this.
 
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I met Don in 1989. He had moved his business to White Oak Maryland and was doing training seminars in the area and at ISA Conventions. Bought our first Hobbs in 1989 directly from Don and he delivered to a show in Hershey PA at a Penn/Del meeting, I believe it was. I remember it being $1,200. Great fellow!
 

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