will a chainsaw cut through a steel core lanyard?

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would stringing loose kevlar fiber along the cable make a flipline more cut resistant? something like chainsaw chaps built into a steel core laynard.

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Stop the car...

Back up carefully...

Now, turn around and don't go back down the 'Allow-Me-To-Cut-Near-My-Lanyard-Street'
 
car is stopped but not walkin... it seems to me that it is more common to nic or cut a laynard than one's self. my chainsaw hasnt been introduced to flesh nor laynard(wanting to keep it that way). why would it hurt to have safer gear? imagin a kernmantle where the kern is packed kevlar fluff, and keep the steel wire.
 
This discussion reminds me of my teenage childhood years trimming Washingtonian robusta palm trees from the top down with a linesman saddle, chain, and Homelite super2 dual trigger chainsaw.

Run up an aluminum 40 foot ladder, chain into the head, trim with one hand, flip chain down with the other, spiral down to the ground nonstop!

Used to knick my chain a lot, but it only dulled the chain.

Lots of peace of mind in a good steel chain, which I still have.

Used baby birds to lube my chain in those hot dusty summer days!

Won a case of beer beating a bucket truck doing two identical 40 foot bagged palms with my spiral down method.

jomoco
 
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would stringing loose kevlar fiber along the cable make a flipline more cut resistant? something like chainsaw chaps built into a steel core laynard.

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Stop the car...

Back up carefully...

Now, turn around and don't go back down the 'Allow-Me-To-Cut-Near-My-Lanyard-Street'

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Isn't this kinda like suggesting that chainsaw chaps have no role in tree work because if you need chaps, then you're probably cutting too close to your legs? (a notion that may have some merit btw) I actually think a chainsaw stopping lanyard could be a very marketable product.
 
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...a chainsaw stopping lanyard could be a very marketable product.

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Yes...maybe for a manufacturer who could design and engineer the lanyard.

Making something like this in the garage isn't such a good idea. That's more my point.

I have some round slings, http://www.lift-all.com/products-slings.php . Something along that line using a chain clogging fabric might be a good idea.

The catch...liability and the impression that cut resistance can give operators.
 
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why would it hurt to have safer gear? imagin a kernmantle where the kern is packed kevlar fluff, and keep the steel wire.

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I like where you are going with this, a safer product. The steel core is the backbone and support to the whole system - wrap that with kevlar or ballistic nylon then put the cover shell over that "pack" down those layers and add some abrasion protection.

It's not a bullet proof vest - but it would give the user another half second or so to pull back?

or... What about a sleeve that can go over your existing lanyard, say a 2'-5' section that can be removed easily afterwards so the lanyard can be inspected easier. Think of it like chaps for your lanyard.
 
Jim Harris in Oregon used extra large leather tube cambium savers as a lanyard protection sheathe. It also gave the lanyard rigidity for ascending quickly on gaffs, and protection from sap.

Drove an antique Plymouth Barracuda as I recall, won the ITCC one year back in the 90's.

jomoco
 
5/8th is easier on the hands.

1/2" is lighter and less likely to feed through an ascender/ adjuster when not desired, because of greater tail weight.
 
I have cut through the cover on several over many years and only bent a few strands of wire, never severing any of the wires at all. The only reason the wires were not severed was that the contact was from either an "off throttle" saw whose chain had not stopped, or while chunking down a spar (and cutting much too close to my lanyard), the saw contacted the lanyard at a very narrow angle and ate the cover off without catching on the wire. I actually saw an orange mist from the cover fibers and stopped. It was a puckering experience that I have luckily lived to learn from, but have no doubt at all, a chain saw can sever a wire core lanyard. I agree with Tom we must be very careful to not learn to rely on the cut resistance we get from a wire core. As said, they flip much better than a non wire core especially on the big trunks. Twice tied in, don't cut near your lanyard, stay out of the "circle of death".
 
I never climb with anything else but a 13mm rope lanyard. but that is only because the steel lanyard is clumsy and horrible to hang from your harness.
but after saying that, I can't understand if the steel core should not provide more cut resistance than a rope. I am perfectly avare, that a big saw with full throttle will eat through the steel - but if a handsaw or ms 200 just hit the side of the lanyard, I would prefer the steel core.
just a thought. :-)
am still using my 13mm spearmint Monday morning ;-)
 
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would stringing loose kevlar fiber along the cable make a flipline more cut resistant? something like chainsaw chaps built into a steel core laynard.

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Stop the car...

Back up carefully...

Now, turn around and don't go back down the 'Allow-Me-To-Cut-Near-My-Lanyard-Street'

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Isn't this kinda like suggesting that chainsaw chaps have no role in tree work because if you need chaps, then you're probably cutting too close to your legs? (a notion that may have some merit btw) I actually think a chainsaw stopping lanyard could be a very marketable product.
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Started my first ever tree today. Using nylon climbing rope. Fashioned a lanyard from part of the rope. My steel lanyard was due to be delivered today but was anxious to get started. However would not go above 20 feet till my steel came. First trip up after I got the steel lanyard a branch that was held by a vine swung into my saw blade and pushed it into my lanyard. The cover was cut but I could not find a broken strand of steel. I do believe in God. I think he likes me. I ordered another lanyard and will be double tied tomorrow. Fear of falling helps you prevent it.
 
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Started my first ever tree today. Using nylon climbing rope. Fashioned a lanyard from part of the rope. My steel lanyard was due to be delivered today but was anxious to get started. However would not go above 20 feet till my steel came. First trip up after I got the steel lanyard a branch that was held by a vine swung into my saw blade and pushed it into my lanyard. The cover was cut but I could not find a broken strand of steel. I do believe in God. I think he likes me. I ordered another lanyard and will be double tied tomorrow. Fear of falling helps you prevent it.
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Hire a professional.
 
Wow. Thanks for sharing the vid. That old steel core that I bought in 2018 and immediately put in the bottom of the toolbox might be coming back out.
 
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