Why is no one carrying good quality chainsaw pants

[Blinky]

We need practical standards that get protection to as many climbers and cutters as possible. If the US standards require heavy pants that no one will wear except under fear of penalty then the standards are the problem.
Are European legs less delicate or do we just have morons running the standards committees? Standards are useless when they aren't practical.

 

[treesandsurf]

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Standards are useless when they aren't practical.

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Totally agree. The gladiators are crazy heavy, not even close to practical here in the tropics. I use the SIP progress pants almost every day, perfect even with the hot humid weather.

Wagnaw, checkout clarks forestry equipment online. I bought a pair of SIPs progress almost 2 years ago (same pair I still wear close to every day) for less than $250 after shipping. Maybe the prices have changed but can't be that much?

jp

 

[GregManning]

Heavy Gladiator pants ? ? ?

Just for fun I weighed a pair of AW Tech pants, plus an old pair of Stihl chaps (which did not have wrap-around ankle protection.) 3 lb 8 oz = 1591 g

Then I weighed my US Gladiators, which has ankle protection, assumed better “chain-stop-protection”, & keeps proper location on the leg. 3 lb 8.5 oz = 1605 g

That’s a difference of 14 grams = 0.5 oz.

 

[just_a_tree_guy]

you nailed it blinky ! right on !

 

[TreeStuff]

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Heavy Gladiator pants ? ? ?

Just for fun I weighed a pair of AW Tech pants, plus an old pair of Stihl chaps (which did not have wrap-around ankle protection.) 3 lb 8 oz = 1591 g

Then I weighed my US Gladiators, which has ankle protection, assumed better “chain-stop-protection”, & keeps proper location on the leg. 3 lb 8.5 oz = 1605 g

That’s a difference of 14 grams = 0.5 oz.

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That's a great point, Greg. They still beat chaps by a mile in most respects.

Also I 1000% agree about standards needing to be practical... I don't know who originally wrote the ASTM F1897 Leg Protection standard but they were on something.

 

[banjo]

Could a U.S. retailer sell the European chainsaw pants as regular pants that just happen to have non U.S. approved chainsaw protection? We could just say they are for added warmth.

 

[BostonBull]

Those chaps can be taken off in hot weather when not in use.........pants, you're stuck with till days end.

 

[treehumper]

Could it be that the regs are for general chain saw use and not specific to arborists? And for the record, European standards require the chainsaw protection for speeds starting at 3900 ft/min (20m/s approx) or higher depending on the class. UL standards are for 2750 ft/min. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......

As for a retailer selling chainsaw pants that aren't UL approved as "insulated pants", I don't think they're lawyers would go for it. The old saying, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck then it's a duck.

 

[rangerdanger]

Whats the difference between Type A and Type C when looking at Euro pants?

 

[treehumper]

A gives front and right side rear protection to both legs. B additionally gives rear left side protection to the right leg. C gives all-round protection to both legs

and for classes, Class 1, Class 2 or Class 3 - respectively 20, 24 or 28 m/s

taken from OM 2009/03 - Appendix 6 – European Standards and Markings for Foot and Leg Protection

 

[Frax]

I am as frustrated as the rest of you about trying to get climate appropriate saw pants, especially ones that are good for climbing.
We don't have the extreme heat issues many of you have to endure and work through, but still. Why is is such a big deal to score nice fitting, decent looking workable pants?
I have had Gladiators on order for months now. My size might be a bit harder to find in stock but still...
We are really behind the times in this compared to say, innovations in rope systems.