Who is the best black tree climber in the world?

Daniel

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I nominate Patt Epps. He's actually Big Jon's mentee... Big Jon hasn't been on the boards much lately, but some of you old timers might remember him. Anyhow, Pat is a great climber both technically and personally. He's got a great attitude. Things always go smooooth with no upset or yelling. And he puts the wood on the ground fast. He moves quickly and has a great understanding of rigging, pruning, ropes, gear, and groundies.

You can check out his work on the following video. This is part 1 of 2 from a job we did June 27, 2009, rigging and falling three 100'+ Tulip trees.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpwDNQwKzFo

Pats is good but not perfect. If you look closely, you can see a couple mistakes he makes on bypass cuts on his notches on the bigger wood in part 2, and there is one low backcut. Although I've invited him over to review the tapes, he hasn't made it yet, so we haven't discussed this yet. We all can improve on some aspect of our understanding or skills.

That said he is a great climber. Fast, efficient, safe, experienced, aware and cares about the people on the ground. I really love working with him and was thrilled to be able to capture some great tree work in this video.

I was running the ropes in part 1. In part 2, I ran the camera from the bucket and then had to run the ropes again towards the end of the day, as the two other experienced ground guys left at 2:30. The customer actually ran the camera for a few shots then, and did a good job, but a bunch of late afternoon cuts never made it to tape.

Pat started up the first tree around 10 AM and all three trees were on the ground by 5:45. We lost 45 minutes becasue I had to go home and get more tape, and another 30 minutes for lunch, and who knows how much extra time the video took, so it was about 6-6.5 hours of work for 1 climber and four groundmen, except the last two hours there were only 3 ground men. I was trying to show how efficient a good climber and ground crew can be whe they all get in the flow.
 
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When you asked Pat if he had anything to ad to that,it would of be funny if he gave the monster in his hand a plug for helping in effiecency.
 
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I don't get either. At 5:50 it looks like he took a nice ride.
 
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I dont think he really meant anything derogatory,looks like he just wanted to give his friend props.Lets face it the industry is dominated by white and hispanic workers.Its nice to give his african american friend some props,maybe a little unrefined in his decloration.I knew right when I read that the PC police would jump all over that.I thought the same thing I just tried to give Dan the benefit of the doubt.I really try to be honest about race relations and never try to sugar coat things.But the fact of the matter is I havent really ever seen any African American Climbers before(in 20 +years in arboriculture) but would welcome anyone regardless of race.Dan I would recommend maybe changing the title of the thread ,I got a feeling you may take alot of heat for that.
 
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Well said Jimmy. I agree, the title makes you say 'Huh?' but I agree with your post 100%.

We have a tree worker training program here in Providence for minorities, and many of the students that have taken the course are African-American. Hopefully programs like this one will help diversify our industry a bit more.

This is a great program as well:

http://www.newenglandisa.org/SpreadingTheWordArboriculture.html

-Tom
 
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Oh I missed the race thing (seriously) and was wondering what a "black tree" was, and then Dan said it was a tulip tree
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Pat and the crew seemed very efficient but why such a need for speed ??? You have to be careful to get the balance between speed and caution right.When you accelerate anything margins for error decrease and your team has to be at their best.Take Care!!
I noticed that he was tying a half hitch before his tie off knot. I am using just a straight clove with two half hitches back to the line ...seems more efficient and just as strong to me.
 
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I dont think he really meant anything derogatory,looks like he just wanted to give his friend props.Lets face it the industry is dominated by white and hispanic workers.Its nice to give his african american friend some props,maybe a little unrefined in his decloration.I knew right when I read that the PC police would jump all over that.I thought the same thing I just tried to give Dan the benefit of the doubt.I really try to be honest about race relations and never try to sugar coat things.But the fact of the matter is I havent really ever seen any African American Climbers before(in 20 +years in arboriculture) but would welcome anyone regardless of race.Dan I would recommend maybe changing the title of the thread ,I got a feeling you may take alot of heat for that.

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Or perhaps a whole new thread is in order.
I have always wondered why this industry wasn't more diverse in respect to ethnicity.
I myself am color blind, which makes it very difficult to manage my ropes.
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I guess I don't really care who the best is since that changes so fast... but the dude's obviously a pro. Are those supposed to be training videos or what?
 
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I agree with Jimmy as well - I didn't think there was any malice in the posting - just a bit rough.
 
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Oh I missed the race thing (seriously) and was wondering what a "black tree" was, and then Dan said it was a tulip tree

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haha I did the same thing when I read the post. I said to myself what makes a black tree more difficult to climb than the rest?!?!?! but then it clicked.

Nice job I bet the ground crew was busy. One question, was there some reason for tying a lot of the large wood off in the middle it seemed to swing funny as it was coming down. Rather than butt tying or something else?
 
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Def knows what he is doing but don't think you can gauge how good a climber someone is on spikes or in an edited film.
 
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Thanks for posting that Daniel, I enjoyed it. I've often wondered why we don't see more black guys in this trade, maybe Patt's leadership will change that. Look at how black folks have pretty much dominated every sport out there, give them a few years and they'll probably dominate the TCC's as well.
 
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Yeah Familytree!!!

Come on Treevet. U dont think a climbers ability can be gauged when they are on spikes??? Thats rubbish. There are climbers out there who specialize in pruning and others who are removal climbers. Pruning doesnt require as much rigging knowlege but pruners are quicker on their feet most generally. All I know is that I have seen some climbers like Pat who can smoke a big tree because of their rigging skill and knowlege.

D.W.H
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Thanks guys.

Oddly enough, I had typed in easyphloem but quickly nixed the idea thinking it would have been frowned upon

I have always wondered why there aren't more African American climbers out there. There is one HACK company that only has African American workers. One guy had asked if we were hiring, claiming to be the best climber in new jersey. I had to laugh when he said it because I was stareing at his chainsaw scar on his face when he said it.

My ground guy Tyler, who happens to be black, says "would you work with a bunch of black guys and chainsaws?" I said yes, he called me stupid.
 

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