which chainsaw pants?

Luke Haas said:
Clogger zero's, I'm in WI and wear them through winter. My buddy has the Pfanner Gladiators and complains about them being too warm even during our harsh winter. I have two pairs of Cloggers and typically wear each pair 2-3 days before washing.
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Luke, We have some really cool gear coming through the pipeline that should be getting released in time for the North American winter. They will be nearly as light as the zeros, but a bit warmer and with a few other wintery features as well.

Cheers
Pete
Clogger
 
rico said:
I purchased 2 pair of the Forestry Brand Premium Climbing Chainsaw Pants a few months back and I love them. So much so that they are all I wear when I’m working whether I need protection or not. Super comfy climbing or on the ground, and they seem to be holding up really well. $89 dollars a pair bought directly. Highly Recommended.
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Could you attach a link to them?
 
I wear Clogger Zeros year round. They are expensive but worth it. I have found that they tend to pick and tear easier than I thought when doing ground work. Someone said they are “breezy” in the winter. . . yep. Gotta wear long johns. I love em though. Tried the Notch brand ones and they felt too rough on the inside. I’m saving for another pair of the Cloggers.
 
I got some gladiator ventilations.
They are wonderful.
I blew the crotch out after about 10 days of climbing in them. It wouldn't have been a huge deal, except that I don't wear drawers.
We are waiting to see what pfanner does about it.
 
Fivepoints said:
I recently got cloggers for myself and crew. Tired of having to fuss at people to to put on chaps. I really like them so far. I got everybody two pairs to start with. I'm still surprised how comfortable they are. It is a bit weird not having a back pocket though.
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My oldest daughter has recently started helping me get our tree business off the ground and after watching me use a small chainsaw on the ground asked for a pair of Cloggers so she can process brush on the ground. She likes the pants and the way they look. My youngest wants a pair too but Clogger doesn’t make em to fit 10 year olds
 
B_Strange said:
My oldest daughter has recently started helping me get our tree business off the ground and after watching me use a small chainsaw on the ground asked for a pair of Cloggers so she can process brush on the ground. She likes the pants and the way they look. My youngest wants a pair too but Clogger doesn’t make em to fit 10 year olds
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Its awesome to hear of her getting involved in the game. We make many of our trouser models
in Womens sizing, and if your 10 year old is really keen we can always do a custom pair for her!
If none of your retailers stock the womens sizes they can be got through our website goclogger.com

Pete
Clogger
 
Peetle said:
Its awesome to hear of her getting involved in the game. We make many of our trouser models
in Womens sizing, and if your 10 year old is really keen we can always do a custom pair for her!
If none of your retailers stock the womens sizes they can be got through our website goclogger.com

Pete
Clogger
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Thanks Pete! I appreciate the offer! My 10 yo would love a pair. She sleeps with a Stihl catalog and asked for a chainsaw for Christmas. I’ll contact ya’ll regarding sizing and pricing for both girls so we can start saving. I need another pair as well so can’t wait for your winter version!
 
B_Strange said:
I wear Clogger Zeros year round. They are expensive but worth it. I have found that they tend to pick and tear easier than I thought when doing ground work. Someone said they are “breezy” in the winter. . . yep. Gotta wear long johns. I love em though. Tried the Notch brand ones and they felt too rough on the inside. I’m saving for another pair of the Cloggers.
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Had new Clogger Zero's (2nd gen) on a couple of weeks ago while clearing an acreage (FireSmart) and had a dry spruce broken branch stub thingy go thru the pants by the pocket and cut the fabric like a knife. New one on me. This material, while light, may need to be made of stronger stuff/ ripstop of some kind because to me it cut easier than plain old blue jeans. These dry broken stubs can be sharp but I didn't even get 4 hours wear outa the Zeros before the first booboo.
On a different note, I still use an old pair of Steins and have Pfanners too but holy smoke are the Pfanners hot. The Zeros seem way cooler in the summer though, as advertised.
 
ghostice said:
Had new Clogger Zero's (2nd gen) on a couple of weeks ago while clearing an acreage (FireSmart) and had a dry spruce broken branch stub thingy go thru the pants by the pocket and cut the fabric like a knife. New one on me. This material, while light, may need to be made of stronger stuff/ ripstop of some kind because to me it cut easier than plain old blue jeans. These dry broken stubs can be sharp but I didn't even get 4 hours wear outa the Zeros before the first booboo.
On a different note, I still use an old pair of Steins and have Pfanners too but holy smoke are the Pfanners hot. The Zeros seem way cooler in the summer though, as advertised.
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I'm really sorry to hear that. The material on the Zeros is actually ripstop and has a tear strength as high or higher than anything else on the market. Could you DM me some pictures, I am really interested to see what happened. I really appreciated this feedback by the way everyone, this is how we find out what we can improve!

Cheers
Pete
Clogger
 
ghostice said:
Had new Clogger Zero's (2nd gen) on a couple of weeks ago while clearing an acreage (FireSmart) and had a dry spruce broken branch stub thingy go thru the pants by the pocket and cut the fabric like a knife. New one on me. This material, while light, may need to be made of stronger stuff/ ripstop of some kind because to me it cut easier than plain old blue jeans. These dry broken stubs can be sharp but I didn't even get 4 hours wear outa the Zeros before the first booboo.
On a different note, I still use an old pair of Steins and have Pfanners too but holy smoke are the Pfanners hot. The Zeros seem way cooler in the summer though, as advertised.
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Man, that stinks. I’ve had mine catch on barbed wire without tearing, but just recently tore the pocket flap that “hides” the zipper. I can’t remember what they snagged on. They’re not quite a year old, worn 4-5 days a week, and only have the insignificant tear. Oh, they did wear on the inside of the left ankle. I patched it with the provided material and shoe goo, no more issues. (I kept all patching away from protective material.)

Cloggers are by far my favorite saw pants. They cause the least restriction, and don’t get snagged in the tree. The anti-picking right leg is genius.
 
Pete I don’t have pics of the tear - the pants are in with our local amazing mending ladies and I should get em back tomorrow. To be fair to you folks, a few years ago I had a similar thing happen backcountry skiing in the trees - I had a pair of Arcteryx ski pants opened just like they cut with a knife - I was lucky to just have a graze on my thigh not a gash needing stitches. If the top material is rip stop it just seems kinda catchy.
And for me I hope my next pair has a right back pocket a la pfanner.
Cheers
e
 
ghostice said:
Pete I don’t have pics of the tear - the pants are in with our local amazing mending ladies and I should get em back tomorrow. To be fair to you folks, a few years ago I had a similar thing happen backcountry skiing in the trees - I had a pair of Arcteryx ski pants opened just like they cut with a knife - I was lucky to just have a graze on my thigh not a gash needing stitches. If the top material is rip stop it just seems kinda catchy.
And for me I hope my next pair has a right back pocket a la pfanner.
Cheers
e
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Glad to hear you have got it sorted. From the comments I have been getting on here I am wondering if the fact it is a stretch material (pfanners etc aren't) that makes them more liable to get caught. The pliable nature of the material that makes them so comfortable may also make it more liable to catch on things vs a stiffer material that they may just slide past. I will chuck it to the R&D team and no doubt we will get it improved for when Zero Gen 3 arrives on the scene.
As for the back pocket, it seems to be a bit of a polarizing one! We have got a model coming out in the next few months with a back pocket, but as far as I am aware there is no plans to put one on the Zero.

Cheers
Pete
Clogger
 
Yep I’d say thats the issue. Some of the pants I've worn over the years have a more slick material on the front and around the pockets - snags less when they fold or ruck and side benefit is they shed chips/ sawdust better. But not sure about if you’d lose some breathability maybe.
As for back pockets - I stand firmly in support of a zippered pocket (optional extra at slight additional cost?).
These are great pants as is and it is huge with me to have someone other than a large mega-deathstar corporate octopus makin’ neat stuff.
Keep fighting aridity and disenchantment!
All the best,
e

edit, on thinking about this more: Pete, forgive, I should provide maybe a bit more context to the work too. The forest we were felling/ limbing/ bucking in was mature black spruce, about 45 - 55 ft high but with huge amounts of dead branches, slash and smaller noodles in the understory. The dead branches average 1/2" to 1" diameter and when broken off, tend to shear at a 1"- 2" or so angle leaving a sharp pointy bit. Thats how the pocket corner met it's end - I was limbing/ bucking and one of these dead ends got me. These trees are nothing like what you see Dave Coleman or Ace Tree work on in YouTube videos - large spreading deciduous. Instead we do daily penance working on all manner of tightly packed dead standing pitchy toothpicks that limb tie at every opportunity (hence the fire hazard to homeowners). Sap removal is also a major issue on clothing and gear (98% isopropanol). Hope this helps a bit. Snaggy is a big deal in this kind of work.
 
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Thanks ghostice!!! We are the opposite of a deathstar corporate:) We currently have about 50 staff and are growing as fast as we can find staff, which is actually harder than it sounds. Good sewing machinists are quite thin on the ground at the bottom of New Zealand.
That being said, if anyone on here happens to come to New Zealand for a holiday, well we are just 2 hours down the road from Queenstown and would love to take you around the factory.

The stretch material in the pants is made especially for us, and is part woven with some fancy stuff called Nilit Breeze, which dissipates heat due to the shape of its fibres! It doesn't just wick sweat, it actually cools you down:cool:

Cheers, and keep safe out there
Pete
Clogger
 
ghostice said:
Yep I’d say thats the issue. Some of the pants I've worn over the years have a more slick material on the front and around the pockets - snags less when they fold or ruck and side benefit is they shed chips/ sawdust better. But not sure about if you’d lose some breathability maybe.
As for back pockets - I stand firmly in support of a zippered pocket (optional extra at slight additional cost?).
These are great pants as is and it is huge with me to have someone other than a large mega-deathstar corporate octopus makin’ neat stuff.
Keep fighting aridity and disenchantment!
All the best,
e

edit, on thinking about this more: Pete, forgive, I should provide maybe a bit more context to the work too. The forest we were felling/ limbing/ bucking in was mature black spruce, about 45 - 55 ft high but with huge amounts of dead branches, slash and smaller noodles in the understory. The dead branches average 1/2" to 1" diameter and when broken off, tend to shear at a 1"- 2" or so angle leaving a sharp pointy bit. Thats how the pocket corner met it's end - I was limbing/ bucking and one of these dead ends got me. These trees are nothing like what you see Dave Coleman or Ace Tree work on in YouTube videos - large spreading deciduous. Instead we do daily penance working on all manner of tightly packed dead standing pitchy toothpicks that limb tie at every opportunity (hence the fire hazard to homeowners). Sap removal is also a major issue on clothing and gear (98% isopropanol). Hope this helps a bit. Snaggy is a big deal in this kind of work.
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I hear your pain!!! How much are you climbing vs groundwork?
 
@ghostice @Peetle I also support at least one back pocket. I really don't like pants without back pockets much, especially doing groundwork. I like being able to stick a folding saw or a wedge etc. in there. My current saw pants (stihl) have one right back pocket with a velcro flap. Besides preferring a left back pocket, I don't like the design much, it is an internal pocket, meaning the actual pocket will always pull out or fold over. A jeans style sewn on pocket would be a lot more user friendly.
 
climbstihl said:
@ghostice @Peetle I also support at least one back pocket. I really don't like pants without back pockets much, especially doing groundwork. I like being able to stick a folding saw or a wedge etc. in there. My current saw pants (stihl) have one right back pocket with a velcro flap. Besides preferring a left back pocket, I don't like the design much, it is an internal pocket, meaning the actual pocket will always pull out or fold over. A jeans style sewn on pocket would be a lot more user friendly.
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Question for everyone out there! Would you be interested in really comfy stretch jeans that also had chainsaw protection? They aren't available yet, still progressing through the skunk works. They literally look like a pair of jeans, and everyone that has worn the prototypes says they feel amazing to wear. They will definitely have a back pocket!
 
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