when riging off of Spar

I will use a mid-clove hitch & carabiner combo, with a long tail. Usually the tail will be just long enough to retrieve from the next work position.

I also use a Gri Gri because it allows to take out a lot of slack and have your life line snug. So, if you were to gaff out, you wouldn't fall far enough to get hurt.

And for the knot police... Please don't tell me the clove hitch will slip.
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I had never heard of a monkeys tail before...but just from seeing it...i think i might be in love! Looks awesome! Any notable drawbacks?

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It's still an SRT system. Major drawback if a rescue is required.
 
If a rescue were required I could easily be lowered once my safety strap was disconected. I already have a muenter tied so there wouldnt be friction on the knot once it were lossened. What other drawbacks are there on the srt system?
 
got a better picture? of the monkey tail?

been using the Eddy on big spars, works much better than a hitch and Munter combo
 
Eric,

The inventor of the Monkey Tail (Odis Sisk) plans on putting up a post fully explaining the Monkey Tail and its many uses pretty soon.

For those who are already using this beauty, the 28 mm Aluminum Ring in the system is made by CT and is labelled with "Made in Italy". The rings are rated to 25 kN and I would be more than happy to forward you the break test results for the batch that your ring came from if you like.
 
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Eric,

The inventor of the Monkey Tail (Odis Sisk) plans on putting up a post fully explaining the Monkey Tail and its many uses pretty soon.

For those who are already using this beauty, the 28 mm Aluminum Ring in the system is made by CT and is labelled with "Made in Italy". The rings are rated to 25 kN and I would be more than happy to forward you the break test results for the batch that your ring came from if you like.

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Dude, that clove hitch is gonna slip!

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Good day all,
The Monkey Tail is installed and retrieved by
1. Place the eye of the climbing line through the ring
2. Pull enough line through the ring to encircle the stem (to work on a leaning stem position Monkey Tail so that the climbing system loads the ring)
3. With the Monkey tail tie a Blakes Hitch above the eye of the climbing line
4. Determine what length of climbing line is to be left past the Monkey Tail (with a shorter length the fall of the climbing line can be placed into the carabiner allowing system retrieval. With a longer length left the piece of climbing line left can be used to retrieve the system)
5. Select an appropriate SRT descent system (Gri-Gri or hitch with friction management device)
6. Descend to new working position
7. Install lanyard
8. Loosen the system a small amount by feeding a little rope through the Gri-Gri or other device
9. To retrieve pull either the 2 parts of line if using the carabiner on the fall or the length of climbing line that had be previously left hanging down
10. Once Monkey Tail is retrieved retighten around stem then continue work procedure
-The Monkey Tail is made with quality material and spliced by the one and only Rich H himself.
 

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Eric,

The inventor of the Monkey Tail (Odis Sisk) plans on putting up a post fully explaining the Monkey Tail and its many uses pretty soon.

For those who are already using this beauty, the 28 mm Aluminum Ring in the system is made by CT and is labelled with "Made in Italy". The rings are rated to 25 kN and I would be more than happy to forward you the break test results for the batch that your ring came from if you like.

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Dude, that clove hitch is gonna slip!

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Is this an inside joke?
 
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Dude, that clove hitch is gonna slip!

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Is this an inside joke?

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Yep and we're never gonna tell ya either.


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I'll be damned if I can remember what the joke was... but, BUMP on the monkey tail thing.
 
What ever system you use I can tell you from experience it best not get too complex because if you get hurt and your wounded in a tree it is pretty hard to stay focused and not make a mistake that might make things worse. I used to just choke my blakes below my buck but after getting hurt and having to take what felt like forever changing to srt descending on a muenters hitch and almost unbucking before being retied I always have a system that can allow me to repel out of the tree without fooling with it. I think srt with a gri gri is the way to go.
 
i use a alpin butter fly and a carabeener to choke of to the spar leaving enough rope on both sides so i can retreve it, friction hitch i would normally tie a vt and then toss the revolver and figure 8, works good and can be left all done up if you cut off all your stubs to save a bit of time in the tree when changing work postions, on decent.
 
I've always used an adjustable friction saver of my own make and love it. I have it below my lanyard and allows for almost instant bail. I've needed to before so the instant bail is something I like.

My setup is as follows the main cordage is 11mm sterling htp (snakebite) and with a william biner in the end. A ultra tech 6 or 8 wrap prusic with small ring. The reason for the biner rather than the big ring is you can have your system all set and hang the friction saver on your carritool while you are spiking to the top. Then just flip it around the spar and clip your line in and go.
I actually have used this for a self rescue when my silky decided to cut real fast on the last stroke half way up ( damn saw!
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I must say I havn't used odis's tech yet though. I'll have to try it some time.
 
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I do this as well sometimes. It doesn't leave you options for bailing out if needed though.

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If I needed to bail, I'd push my split tail all the way to the end of the climbline, up against the snap. I would then pass a bight of rope through my D rings, and then pass the snap through the bight. Then I pass the snap around the spar, and clip it back to the climbline.
the result is that my climbline is choked around the spar at a fixed point, and the climbline forms a Munter hitch in my D rings, allowing me to rappel from that point. I can post a pic if that's unclear...

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this is an old post, i know, but still interesting !

speelyei, I ld like some pics of that, if possible...

Thanx !
 
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