What purpose has this item

Treespotter

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Where failure of the product may lead to a fall a separate back up system must be used.

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Try to find out to what this relates.

And in the meantime...
Is there a lawyer in the audience that can explain to me how they get away with crap sentences like this.
 
That was a quicky Jersygirl.

It amazes me how easy it is to just fit a sentence in there.

THE WHOLE MEANING OF THE PRODUCT IS TO USE IT WITHOUT ANY BACKUP.

How's this one:

Surgeon has to sign a paper written by me telling:

When I survive my heart/lung transplant I will hold you responsible for my death of old age (in about 50 years) and having to suffer of all the illnesses that come with aging.

And this one:

When are the traffic lights gonna be fitted with these kind of sentences.
Manufacturer to customer: "Yes we produce traffic lights, but if you are going to put our lights in a dangerous spot than you will have to equip them with this text".
When you cross this light with a vehicle with it's engine turned on and in any gear than you will have to have a person with a red flag walking in front of the vehicle to ensure that the road ahead is free of any other moving and stationary vehicle/person/animal/object/UFO/UDO.

Sounds stupid right?
I think it sounds no more stupid than the other on saying:
This is a prusic cord. It's sole purpose is to use it as a friction hitch on a rope. O, and by the way. Where failure of the product may lead to a fall a separate back up system must be used.
 
Its not really that unreasonable Wolter; tree climbing is the only work at height that routinely relies on a prusik without back up.

The European work at height directive stipulates back ups. It is the nature of our typical work practice that is extreme, rather the beal statement.

Its a very good cord too.
 
O sure Paolo, but I wasn't referring to the quality. It was the legal
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yapping that freaked me.
BTW I think I've missed the point in that line. "If there is a possibility". I was thinking, Yea right that possibility is always lurking around the corner. But they probably mean a possibility of failure by cutting it with a saw or overloading it by a ridiculous drop (although the prussic would probably slip in that case).
 
Looks to me you are stacking your life on a 10 mm prusick, thus it makes sense to say you need a backup. Though I have never heard of a climbing rope failing, I have always wondered about having a second as a backup. I believe Tom has always demanded backup when using ascenders, but what about what you are ascending on?
 
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Looks to me you are stacking your life on a 10 mm prusick

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Aren't you?

If you have a TIP in the top of the tree and you are climbing from place to place to do your "thing", aren't you depending on your single climbing system. I only backup when using the saw or when I'm in a position that a swing is very probable.
 
The double anchor sense really comes from an anchor failing or human error with change overs or something interfering with the safety devices, rather than a rope breakage.

Normally prusiks are used as adjusting devices and are always backed up by knotting the line back to the anchor. Even when ascending out of a crevasse on a glacier.

We have an additional risk of cutting lifelines, and some jobs the anchor points are also questionable.
 
I guess the superior way to approach this is to keep in mind the ultimate question, "DO YOU TRUST YOUR LIFE TO IT?" I find that with this in mind before action, I continue to keep ahead of any less than safety first. As a result of this mind set I can leave the legal speak for thoes that walk a line of accountablity in the hands of a manufacturer, in short, use the tools for the job they were designed for, no more. That said, use tools that come from companies that have integrity.
 
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