West Coast Faller v Mancunian Hacker

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Besides learning a valuable lesson, I also developed a false sense of optimism, only to be shattered with a stupid move on a twin lead ash. Cut the corner off the second hinge, when I needlessly over-cut the back cut on the first... Saving that one for the blooper real...

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Shut your mouth Dadio. There is NO reason why your false sense of optimism should be shattered. Review the tape, and I think you will see that someone else probably messed up that twin lead ash (pulling too hard with the skidsteer, a pretty young thing walked past your line of vision, etc.).

You are the Dadio, infallible 99.9% of the time.

Now, about the upcoming blooper reel: I thought that your entire collection of videos were blooper reels. My mistake. Keep up the good work!

SZ
 
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because of your comments here I'm going to be more disciplined with my sighting. Thanks.

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yes use the sights!!! Once you have them dialed in on the notch.. you can use them on the backcut to fine tune the width of the hinge, without checking the tip of the bar, and more importantly when the bar is buried (shorter than the the hinge). Particularly useful when you want to cut a thin hinge, an inch or less.. its very reliable..
 
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Jared’s a Senior Faller for BC Forest Service, but during the off-season he works with a tree-service company that I also do some climbing for. He’s a solid guy, good skills and knows his stuff. Having said that....he’s 6 ft 5, opinionated, loud-mouth, answer for everything, know-it -all !

http://youtu.be/2lzuaxw9gb4

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He's got more excuses than I do! I think he did move that rock right before your drop, Reg.

Looks like you guys are having lots of fun on the job!

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We went back to finish that job yesterday, but a 3rd guy was coming also, Daryl. Jared was there first, and I caught him red handed scraping more dirt away from the top of the mound on his side, to make it look like his shot was actually more central than it was for when Daryl arrived. Gotta hand it to him
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I use the handle for sights. Does anyone use the actual sights?

[/ QUOTE ] using the handle, like ropeshield mentioned earlier can throw out your aim if there's lots of play in there, unlike the actual sights which are 'fixed' once the bar is tightened up.
 
I'm curious about just how much slop is in the bar stud connection itself?

Each time I put a bar on I have to lift it before tightening the nuts down,

Considering the chainsaw sight itself is only maybe 5-6 inches long, it seems the potential slop factor still exists.

I believe this may be why Tom Craven preferred using a large carpenter's square to sight all of his extremely critical tree felling.

Three feet of sighting edge to look down has to be better than 6 inches for a precision drop.

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I use the handle for sights. Does anyone use the actual sights?

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only on the 200t, it doesn't have lines

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It has lines on both sides Dan, same as the 201, look again
 
It sure looks to me as if my husky bar is out of true by the exact amount of lift I get when raising the bar prior to tightening the bar stud nuts.

Which begs the question of whether the husky design engineers failed to off set the bar studs enough to compensate for that slop?

Which also begs the question of whether the designers at Stihl also made that same fundamental error?

I've no doubt that both husky and Stihl bar studs are true to their sights.
But that does not mean the same is true of their bars once raised and tightened?

I need some independent analysis of this phenomenon guys.

jomoco
 
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It sure looks to me as if my husky bar is out of true by the exact amount of lift I get when raising the bar prior to tightening the bar stud nuts.

Which begs the question of whether the husky design engineers failed to off set the bar studs enough to compensate for that slop?

Which also begs the question of whether the designers at Stihl also made that same fundamental error?

I've no doubt that both husky and Stihl bar studs are true to their sights.
But that does not mean the same is true of their bars once raised and tightened?

I need some independent analysis of this phenomenon guys.

jomoco

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The bar is curved, dont forget Jon
 
I always tighten my stihl bars with the bar setting down with the saw in the upright position. I treat the sights on my saws just like the ones on my rifle. When you are familiar with the saw and know the bar is true to the sight I know i will hit my shot.
 
Well I just got independent confirmation from my Stihl dealer that what I'm seeing is accurate even on a brand new Stihl saw.

But it's his opinion that neither Stihl or Husky will give a flying hoot about their sights being out of true with their bars!

Amazing!

Oh well.

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Well I just got independent confirmation from my Stihl dealer that what I'm seeing is accurate even on a brand new Stihl saw.

But it's his opinion that neither Stihl or Husky will give a flying hoot about their sights being out of true with their bars!

Amazing!

Oh well.

jomoco

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Line the square up with the under side of the bar Jon, and along the whole of its length, not just the nearest quarter. For accuracy, you wouldn't use such a long bar in the pic for a tree only as wide as what that square covers.... but if you had to then you'd use the middle of the bar.
 
Well the Husky expert at Baileys says that he's known known the sights on both Stihl and Husky saws are crap only used by amateur loggers for decades as well.

I guess yu learn somethin new everyday guys!

jomoco
 
Not only did the Bailey's old dog expert say that, so did my old time logging expert that now runs my local Stihl dealership, an old friend of mine, along with his younger brother who used to sponsor our local tree seminars.

I tend to believe these old timers know exactly what they're talking about.

My apologies if I'm cluttering up your thread Reg?

jomoco
 
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