Vaccine Mandate

What's your opinion?

  • I support Covid-19 vaccine mandates

    Votes: 16 43.2%

  • I support Covid-19 vaccine mandates with an option for weekly testing

    Votes: 1 2.7%

  • I oppose Covid-19 vaccine mandates

    Votes: 8 21.6%

  • I oppose all vaccine mandates

    Votes: 12 32.4%
  • Total voters
    37
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I’ll also add that the total number of deaths/debilitating side effects are more than ALL VACCINES COMBINED for the last 40 years. Scary when you know the truth.

Care to share the source of that "information"? The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) was established in 1990, so it doesn't have 40 years of data. Additionally, VAERS data does not indicate cause and effect.
 
Weird how the hospitals aren’t filled with people suffering from side effects of the vaccine though.


“ I did my own research” = “ I used google to seek out off the wall views that align with my own, and anything learned or observed by using the scientific method will not change my mind, no matter how conclusive. I’m already invested in this viewpoint and I’m not good at admitting that I was ever wrong.”
 
https://www.usnews.com/news/nationa...not-be-required-for-all-americans?context=amp. It’s my opinion that getting jabbed should be an individual choice based upon individual circumstances and govt is grossly overstepping it’s bounds(and even issuing illegal mandates)by issuing no jab/no job mandates. Everyone is different and one size doesn’t fit all. Life entails risk - when we choose to drive a vehicle we take a risk everytime we get behind the wheel. When folks are being coerced / blackmailed into being jabbed or lose the means of sustenance (especially if they were employed for years previously) it rubs a lot of folk the wrong way. What’s next - Jab or no Social Security, SSI , Medicare , Pension ? Like I said before life is a risk and no one has can demand the “right to not get sick/ill” especially when that line of thinking must cause others to have to surrender their rights/ bodily autonomy in order to have a job / move around freely as before
 
Here is the skinny for me. Wearing a mask aint no big fukin deal small potatos in my world. Second, 8 orthepedic surgerys deep and countless trips to the doctors from motocross, tree climbing , rock climbing, years of drug and alcohol abuse, years in the military, god knows how many series of shots, doctors say get the shot I get the damn shot move on. Anybody trying to make this a freedom issue and you cant tell me what to do is silly. Turn on the news, Afganistan is what it looks like when people loose there freedom.
 
Chaplain242 said:
Or you might see no reduction in admissions, revealing the statistics of who is getting hospitalised. Ref Israel, Gibraltar
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Now I’m sure what country you are currently residing in, but the statistics are in, and here in Merica our hospitals and ICU’s are being overwhelmed by the unvaxed.
 
owScott said:
Here is the skinny for me. Wearing a mask aint no big fukin deal small potatos in my world. Second, 8 orthepedic surgerys deep and countless trips to the doctors from motocross, tree climbing , rock climbing, years of drug and alcohol abuse, years in the military, god knows how many series of shots, doctors say get the shot I get the damn shot move on. Anybody trying to make this a freedom issue and you cant tell me what to do is silly. Turn on the news, Afganistan is what it looks like when people loose there freedom.
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A little real life perspective right there. Thanks Scott.
 
www.npr.org

I got a 'mild' breakthrough case. Here's what I wish I'd known

After a year and a half of being COVID-cautious, a fully vaccinated health journalist thought he could finally travel and socialize this summer. The resulting illness didn't feel "mild" at all.
www.npr.org www.npr.org

I wish there was a eye roll emoji.. I can’t believe there are those that are so selfish not to take such a small risk as in getting a fucken vax….
 
rico said:
A little real life perspective right there. Thanks Scott.
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Not sure if all these freedom loving patriots here understand this fact. When you serve overseas in the military they require you to get all kinds of shots to protect against all kinds of shit you havent heard of PERIOD no discussion. Can you visualize being in the USMC and telling your staff sargent this violating my freedom? You can call me a conformist or sell out or any of that crap. Fact is these freedom lovers get to spew this nonsense because of people who know what real freedom means and how it is attained. Much respect to all my fellow veterans and fellow citizens who understand we above me.
 
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owScott said:
Not sure if all these freedom loving patriots here understand this fact. When you serve overseas in the military they require you to get all kinds of shots to protect against all kinds of shit you havent heard of PERIOD no discussion. Can you visualize being in the USMC and telling your staff sargent this violating my freedom? You can call me a conformist or sell out or any of that crap. Fact is these freedom lovers get to spew this nonsense because of people who know what real freedom means and how it is attained. Much respect to all my follow veterans and fellow citizens who understand we above me.
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Thanks for your service brother. You are the shit.
 
Frankie 1 said:
https://www.usnews.com/news/nationa...not-be-required-for-all-americans?context=amp. It’s my opinion that getting jabbed should be an individual choice based upon individual circumstances and govt is grossly overstepping it’s bounds(and even issuing illegal mandates)by issuing no jab/no job mandates. Everyone is different and one size doesn’t fit all. Life entails risk - when we choose to drive a vehicle we take a risk everytime we get behind the wheel. When folks are being coerced / blackmailed into being jabbed or lose the means of sustenance (especially if they were employed for years previously) it rubs a lot of folk the wrong way. What’s next - Jab or no Social Security, SSI , Medicare , Pension ? Like I said before life is a risk and no one has can demand the “right to not get sick/ill” especially when that line of thinking must cause others to have to surrender their rights/ bodily autonomy in order to have a job / move around freely as before
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No jab / No job policies? This is quite the slippery slope imho. The same government who shut down businesses last year and didn’t seem to care that said owners could not provide for / feed their families now say you no longer have dominion over your own body and now must take a “vaxx” to work a job as it is for “the greater good”. Sounds like commifascist-totalitarianism
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So you only like the socialist plans that directly benefit you? Sounds like egocentric hubris.
 
rico said:
You mean the Afghanistan that Trump surrender to the Taliban?
You mean the Afghanistan that Trump swore he was gonna pull all our troops out of?
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To suggest Biden as the president for 8 months of a 20 year conflict is entirely on him is silly.
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Thanks for your service brother. You are the shit.
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My turn, sorry for the rant now I am taking shit personal.
 
There’s a HUGE difference between being a civilian and signing a contract with the US military forces ... Before that ink is even dry they OWN your ass and if you disobey a vaxx directive (as long as it is within legal bounds) then you face the discipline/discharge. Never recall signing a similar contract with the Gov as a civilian therefore it’s an Apple / Oranges comparison
 
Frankie 1 said:
There’s a HUGE difference between being a civilian and signing a contract with the US military forces ... Before that ink is even dry they OWN your ass and if you disobey a vaxx directive (as long as it is within legal bounds) then you face the discipline/discharge. Never recall signing a similar contract with the Gov as a civilian therefore it’s an Apple / Oranges comparison
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How about federal workers?
 
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Boomslang said:
So you only like the socialist plans that directly benefit you? Sounds like egocentric hubris.
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What socialist plans are you referring to that directly benefit me? I’m too young to collect anyhoo. The idea being presented here was that folk who worked decades ago could possibly be denied already-earned benefits IF they mandate a vaxx must be taken and they do not wish to be jabbed. That is a scary thought and has nothing to do with ego or hubris except maybe on the part of the Prez
 
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Frankie 1 said:
Life entails risk - when we choose to drive a vehicle we take a risk everytime we get behind the wheel.
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YOur logic falls apart. Look at the 'freedoms' are given up when driving. Licensing, both vehicle and driver, eye tests, seat belts, speed limits. If a point is going to be made about a right the responsibility that goes with that assertion must be considered.

What 'rights' are considered challenged in the workplace? PPE requirements? One handing? making proper collar cuts not stubs and rips?
 
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