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well theres your opportunity paolo.....im sure one of these young hawaiian lads would be more than happy to walk around wearing your treeflex harness and advertizing for you in exchange for a small price....ie, your harness
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Why, that's pure genius Steve! I humbly volunteer for the task.



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well theres your opportunity paolo.....im sure one of these young hawaiian lads would be more than happy to walk around wearing your treeflex harness and advertizing for you in exchange for a small price....ie, your harness
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Maybe I missed it, But when will the Treeflex be available in the states, and no im not going to hawaii. I still have back problems, and i've been looking at this harness as a possibility.

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Hi Alves

is your back problem from when you took that knock in the tree a few months ago, or something else? Hope you make a full recovery soon.

TreeFlex is not yet for sale in the states. It can be purchased direct, but exchange rates turn out expensive stateside. We are looking into ways to make TreeFlex as affordable on the dollar as other top USA harnesses.

Thanks for your interest.
 
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If my plane doesnt crash and my luggage doesnt get lost and if I dont get jacked(GOD willing) Rich H should have a Tree Flex in Hawaii!Also should have a Kalibri I think at the All gear booth.Correct me if im wrong Rich
 
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Talking to various people, I understand there should be a small and a medium knocking about somewhere or on someone, if you look around . Keep your eyes peeled - be a good opportunity to try for size with a polite request : )

If you meet them, please pass on my best wishes to Phillipa and Stuart, representing the UK/I chapter.
 
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Rich will have my Unicender at the All Gear booth. What a combo...TF and Uni...dreamy!

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Sounds like Rich is going to be using a lot of pink gear - you got any gear left Tom? : )
 
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Yeah...some half inch rope, my Ultralight and sticky biners...they should be OK if I smack them a little...ha haha!

Rich volunteered to paint the Uni before using in in Hawaii :)

All of my gear will be with me when I go to Colorado for the Rendezvous. Five nights and four days of climbing...oooo!!!
 
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If my plane doesnt crash and my luggage doesnt get lost and if I dont get jacked(GOD willing) Rich H should have a Tree Flex in Hawaii!Also should have a Kalibri I think at the All gear booth.Correct me if im wrong Rich

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Glad you got to try it out Jimmy. Thanks to Tom and Rich for making that happen!

Seems a few climbers in the US get spooked by the insanely lightweight. Thats because of superior and expensive components and an uncompromising design ethic. Part of good ergonomics is low weight. The reasons are:

The webbing is thinner than normal because its a very durable and expensive tight weave, compared to thicker, heavier, looser, less durable and cheaper webbing.

The padding and exterior are patented extruded closed cell foam designs - extremely lightweight, durable and expensive.

The components are high strength, expensive, aluminium alloy, except the special shackles which are stainless steel. The large diameter rings on the leg loops ensure no wear to the webbing.

Some wonder about stability with a chainsaw - TreeFlex is cut and specially shaped to fit the pelvis and sit on the buttocks. There is a special pad that wedges the harness up.

If suspenders are required (always a good idea with heavy saws so the load runs through the shoulders), the center back clip point runs straight through the suspenders. The chest ascender straps can be used to this effect, by clipping to the fixed front waist strap. This makes for a simple lightweight set up that stays on the shoulder by self adjusting with lateral flexion and extension. the padded yoke off of the fall arrest chest harness can be used if required. These straps are quick release, inexpensive and very effective:
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The freedom of movement through the ergonomic design trumps all of this technical competence though! In time, arborists will become better educated as to why that is.

Three patents and registered designs are incorporated into the design - a first in industrial harnesses.

With versatility through all the sizes and attachments, from rec climbing to rigging, TreeFlex has it covered!
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http://www.treemettlenexus.com/treeflex.html#images

If you're in the market for a new harness, come and see us at TCI Expo.
 
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Does anyone happen to know how much this treeflex is going to cost, it looks like a damned nice saddle and if its reasonably priced i will definatly pick it up, i love my tree motion but like the simplicity of this saddle a lot
 
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Thanks for your interest Familytree.

Unfortunately, due to import costs and the exchange rate, probably around $500!

In time we have a plan to get that down to $350 or so.

If you like to Frog ascend and use a sliding D for work posistioning, this is the only purpose designed option that comes as standard without clumsy add ons. Couple that with the lightweight and ergonomic design features; if any harness is worth $500 because its different and more effective, this is it.

Rec climbers that have to pack a harness and travel distance will like the fold-ability too.
 
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Just a note for the US market that tends to prefer a 5,000lb tensile strength rating to harnesses. 5,000lbs is about 23kN. The EN 813 standard (work positioning sit harnesses) pull tests harnesses to 15kN, but also subjects the harness to harsh 2metre (6ft) falls on 1m (3ft) lanyards with 100kg (220lb), specially weighted dummies. That makes for a harsh test for a harness that will never be subject to such conditions during typical safe working practice. However, it is possible if whizzing through a tree when the prusik jams mid jump, or falling a short distance on a low stretch doubled rope that didn't have slack sufficiently managed.

However, looking at other threads, some are concerned that this isn't sufficient a test to determine 'Durable Safety' (my term, not official, but I think explains the point well) i.e. sufficient safety reserves over time to ensure operational safety.

To help remove any doubt, TreeFlex has been pull tested to 30kN (6,600lbs)!!! This result wasn't surprising to us, as it also withstands the extremely harsh EN 361 tests of 4m fall (12ft) on a 2m (6ft) lanyard.

So, to use a simpler way of determining 'durable safety' via safety factors and Cycles to failure concepts during normal use (rather than a worst case scenario):

30kN Tensile(6,600 lbs) divided by an actual WLL of 250kg (550 lbs)= safety factor of 12! Thats thousands of cycles to failure for textiles. That gives a huge safety margin for wear to textiles through UV and abrasion. TreeFlex is made of abrasion resistant webbing.

Why 250Kg WLL (550 lbs)? Heavy climbers, worst case scenario in a rescue, heavy rigging gear and chainsaws, and surging forces in a swing, possibly all at the same time.

6,600 lbs Tensile strength / 4 lbs weight = AWESOME strength to weight ratio.
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Tested for worse case scenarios, built for durable safety.
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Both Ergonomic and technical competence.
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Designed and tested for Roped Access, Work Positioning and Fall Arrest.
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Does it come with a free climber to do the work for you? Err.....sorry; we can bake the cake, all you have to do is eat it!
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ha, laz ive been messageing folks from the uk to see if they could send me one if i sent them the money, i didnt know it wasnt out yet, yeah, i already spent 500 on a saddle, im not planning on doing it again, you can thank the treemotion guys for that on, honestly though if the price gets knocked down like you said then ill own one, it is a really nice looking saddle, i especially like the lighter side of it,
 
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I appreciate all of what you say there Family : )

If the damn pound wasn't so high it wouldn't be so bad.

Anyway, anyone going to TCI should be able to take a ride in one. Bob Dickens and Ben Williams of STL and Davina and I intend on being there (opportunities to hear it from the horses mouths)

See you then maybe?
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To help remove any doubt, TreeFlex has been pull tested to 30kN (6,600lbs)!!! This result wasn't surprising to us, as it also withstands the extremely harsh EN 361 tests of 4m fall (12ft) on a 2m (6ft) lanyard.

6,600 lbs Tensile strength / 4 lbs weight = AWESOME strength to weight ratio.
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Tested for worse case scenarios, built for durable safety.
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And stil it was shipped to the Euros with a at 300 kilo breaking bridge
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This was after all the magnificent testing was done.
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I understand Undertrunk, because someone made a mistake on a production line, you want the project to be err...'under a trunk'- for good.
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We learnt from a set back, accepted the issue, dealt with it professionally and created an even better component that now enables the product to test out at 30kN (6,600 lbs) - TreeFlex is a great harness. But you don't care to accept that - you want a great product to suffer. Thats too bad.
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If the damn pound wasn't so high it wouldn't be so bad.



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I've been doing my best to devalue the pound, to no avail.



I hope I can make it to TCI this year for a test drive, you're being really convincing!
 
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