Tree Rigging: The Plan

That’s great LilRed. I’d like to see more people be able to post videos and pictures that may have possible imperfections. Until we all say it’s more important to see what you want to, or are willing to share than that it be perfect lots of people will hold back.
 
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You can see the split from a mile away.

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what ever....

Yeah when it split it went up through the middle of the old scar, but it's not like the split was THERE, from what I could tell.

Good job posting this Nick.

I liked the re-direct to the LD of course.
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In hind sight, if your hinge wood was just a little thinner, it would have went more perfect. You had the retaining guy line on it, so you probably could have made it thinner.
 
Have ya'all noticed all the buzzers self promoting and peddaling their crap are extra touchy. I remember when we'd all be threatening to rip each others jugulars out. We got past that. It seems like about 50% of the posters are marketing. Sheesh I get pop ups, unsolicited phone calls, junk mail, and internet "friends" selling me stuff. That was my real concern with the video. If your going to run an ad, pay the man and run an ad at least.
 
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Have ya'all noticed all the buzzers self promoting and peddaling their crap are extra touchy. I remember when we'd all be threatening to rip each others jugulars out. We got past that. It seems like about 50% of the posters are marketing. Sheesh I get pop ups, unsolicited phone calls, junk mail, and internet "friends" selling me stuff. That was my real concern with the video. If your going to run an ad, pay the man and run an ad at least.

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So are you bipolar and looking in the mirror when you wrote this? Sounds like you are the only one getting bent out of shape over this.
 
On pull trees, especially trees being heavily forced to the lay (inducing head lean), I always nip the cheeks of the face to reduce the chance of barber chair. It's an effective approach. $0.02.
 
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On pull trees, especially trees being heavily forced to the lay (inducing head lean), I always nip the cheeks of the face to reduce the chance of barber chair. It's an effective approach. $0.02.

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Good tip..
Thanks for that.. it makes a lot of sense..
there is a lot going on in this vid that has yet to be mentioned.. very cool stuff
 
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Have ya'all noticed all the buzzers self promoting and peddaling their crap are extra touchy. I remember when we'd all be threatening to rip each others jugulars out. We got past that. It seems like about 50% of the posters are marketing. Sheesh I get pop ups, unsolicited phone calls, junk mail, and internet "friends" selling me stuff. That was my real concern with the video. If your going to run an ad, pay the man and run an ad at least.

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So are you bipolar and looking in the mirror when you wrote this? Sounds like you are the only one getting bent out of shape over this.

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actually he does have some mental issues so you will have to give him a break. he's cool though and glad to have him on the buzz all these years.
 
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On pull trees, especially trees being heavily forced to the lay (inducing head lean), I always nip the cheeks of the face to reduce the chance of barber chair. It's an effective approach. $0.02.

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explain it differently, or draw it? Just to make sure I know for sure what you saying.
 
After completing the appropriate face notch the feller would nip through the sapwood on either side of the hinge,cutting q1 to 2" into the trunk parallel to the direction of the fall, before the back cut is completed. I forget what the technique is called but I know it's shown in Jeff Jepsen's book. I can draw a picture once I get back to my computer, I'm using my phone right now.
 
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I suppose a couple options would of been making the notch deeper or above the split. Not saying that would of fixed it as it was a severe side load.

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I agree with you. From where I sit the barberchair at that height was predictable because the sps Red Maple with a failed lead shows at the notch you where cutting into two beams of wood and not one.
A deeeper notch probabley wood of worked as well.
Also hard to read the lines and the angles of pull but potentially the pull line and retension line where off or imparted a twist to the tree. I think it always best to have the anchor as high as possible with the knot at that point rather than running it down to within reach. The reason being the compounding of forces at the crown TiP.


I am not perfect either and had something very similar many years ago with a large Sugar maple it was over 100' and I ahd two pull lines and wwedged centre of mass well over to the lay but missed an internal crack. I cut out the hinge.
Lines and wood rained down on me with two Snapped hydro poles and primaries,secondaries and home and biz feed lines and a major communction line all stretched and/or snapped.
No one or no equipment was hurt or damaged. Every one was safely out of the way, hydro was up and running by dark(awesome Hydro men to the rescue) and the tree actually fell perpenidicular to the intended lay between two homes with minor damage to an eavestrough and shrubbery.
How I survived is beyond me, totally unexpected but in hindsight it was a rookie mistake and mb have only been remedied if I had paid closer attention to the backcut saw chips and angle of the bar and not overestimated the wow in the rubber/spring vibration dampeners?
There is potential in tree of that nature the tree butt can kick out as well as barberchair and tree could be on top of the house.
Mb a good plan but unexpected is potentially a bad plan.
Cheers
Thanks to all the Veterans.
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I thought the hinge was little thick for the diameter of the tree. I recently had a similar situation with a leaner. I compensated for the lean by leaving a thicker hinge only to have it barber chair. It still fell where we wanted it to but the but ended up on the neighbors property and had to be cleared.

The retention line did it's job as planned.

Good video.
 
I would have done that entire job very differently. I might have tried that 10 years ago. I would never have posted that video. You were basically lucky. All the tricks of the trade do not trump gravity.
 
I think there's value in posting the video specifically because everything did not go as planned. There are lots of videos out there of tree removals that take place according to plan. It's refreshing to see what can and does happen in spite of your plan. I know I learn more on the job when surprises occur. Therefore, I enjoy watching other people's surprises so I can prevent them from happening to me. Thanks again for posting the vid.
 
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