Tree Motion Light

Frax, I've been flying the regular TM for a year and like it a lot. However I tried out a TM light a friend has and I prefer it, the change I would make is put the regular TM waist/belt padding in as everyone mentioned. The main reason I like it is the waist belt adjuster is great! The buckle/clasp adjuster on the full TM is terrible, It can only be adjusted with the buckle opened, if you need to adjust it while you're up in a tree yer a bit out of luck.
-AJ
 
Can you let us know how that works out? I wonder if they'd fit a Sequoia

Don't want to derail... PM me for details, in short, to mod my Sequoia leg pads, I used a seam ripper to separate the pads from the leg straps and then sewed in the New Tribe pads (I used NT Yellowjacket leg pads). Very comfortable, climbed on it for years. It's my backup harness now that I'm doing the TM full time.
-AJ
 
I just replaced my Sequoia with a TM light. I've used it on two small jobs so far.
It's not especially comfortable yet, but that's because I haven't done anything to it.
Seems like the bridge is too long for one. I also haven't figured out how to have the leg straps where I want them. Perhaps they should be looser.
What mods (besides adding gear loops) have you TM riders made?

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Agree the stock TM bridge length is excessive, I shortened mine a fair amount and added a second bridge the same length, ring on one, swivel on the other, all good.
-AJ
 
I have climbed in dozens of saddle over the last 35+ years and I have to say that the TM light has been the most comfortable saddle (including regular Treemotion) for skinny/slim climbers like myself. The thinner padding and saddle material make the saddle really conform to your body. Most of my work are removals with larger saws up to a 395XP, and with suspenders I am shocked how comfy this thing is. I have always felt that big, beefy saddles with lots of padding were needed for a good removal saddle, but the TM LIGHT has been a bit of a revelation for me. I have owned a Matt Cornell, New Tribe Onyx, and the regular TM, but the TM light bested them all for this skinny old climber!
 
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I've seen the replacements, it's a big chunk out of my akimbo fund though...
True that. Nor cheap, but far less than en entire new saddle. @SoftBankHawks and I were talking about wear on expensive things. He made the excellent point that servicing parts is nicer than complete replacement.

While it's a bit of a derail, he also pointed out the same concept for the new DMM swivel. My older ones got binned completely when the eyes showed too much wear. Now I can replace the eye alone. Pretty cool!

It's like the story of my grandfather's axe...he wore out the handle, so my dad replaced it and kept using it until the head wore out. I replaced the head and still use my grandfather's axe to this day. :)
 
Update...I've had the full TM for several jobs...? starting to dislike it I cannot keep the back up, I ts always sliding down around my ass, like my pants are falling down I don't know what to try I will lose the bungee to the leg straps though that could help??? the leg work straps are too high hoping the removal will help . ...any suggestions I'm not skinny either, 5'9", 190
An old friend in the UK who used to use all manner of obscure and down right dangerous chainsaw handling under guesstimated the force and speed of a hand held piece, that and his first use of the ass crack exposing TM ran the saw into his forearm. My first TM was nearly new and covered in blood.
For what it's worth I love the super light, I find the thinner material molds much better. I changed the legs to standard, not that I want releasable buckles, just that they hold the webbing firmer, close to zero slippage. I find that different days give me slightly different posture, different clothes, different types of tree and job and I appreiciate being able to very easily let out or suck in the hip webbing, for me this is very easy to use. I use the thicker padding on the back too.
 
An old friend in the UK who used to use all manner of obscure and down right dangerous chainsaw handling under guesstimated the force and speed of a hand held piece, that and his first use of the ass crack exposing TM ran the saw into his forearm. My first TM was nearly new and covered in blood.
For what it's worth I love the super light, I find the thinner material molds much better. I changed the legs to standard, not that I want releasable buckles, just that they hold the webbing firmer, close to zero slippage. I find that different days give me slightly different posture, different clothes, different types of tree and job and I appreiciate being able to very easily let out or suck in the hip webbing, for me this is very easy to use. I use the thicker padding on the back too.

Yep, waist belt adjustability in the tree, huge. I'm trying to figure out how to reverse engineer my regular TM to a better waist adjuster.
-AJ
 
Yeah I sew webbing, that's where I'm headed next. Although I will probably have to deal with heavy criticism if I mod the TM belt ;-)
-AJ
Almost definitely. I've been considering changing the waist buckle on the light since I got it, so I'm not in that camp...
 
Just a quick update. Bought a Treemotion light for one of the crew because he knew how much I was enjoying mine. He did not like it, and much preferred his Matt Cornell saddle. Just goes to show that saddles are such a personal choice and reviews only help so much. Best to fly before you buy
 
I just got one of the full versions and read the manual for fit because I found out quick that every little adjustment drastically affects how the saddle feels in different situations in the rope or on the ball situations as Pfanner man pointed out wont feel the most comfortable because you have to labor to stay in a sitting position if the legs are tighter. The manual states that you should have the belt tight just above the hips and the legs "skater" loose, was the exact terminology. I feel that when I had my leg straps super loose that the way the bridge pulled on the saddle I would sit comfortably without any effort. I ended up tightening the straps not completely tight but more than skater loose. It seems to be a good blend of being comfortable while sitting in the rope or in spikes with a 461 on your side. Having seen Pfanner man's pad mod I can say it is a nice luxury edition in going to look into checking out. They don't look too bad a deviation of edges. The saddle just needs experimentation and some lax afternoons of just trying it til it fits right and i think the saddle can feel right to anyone as long as you spend the time to adjust it to your individual preferences. I went from a full harness Brydan and felt comfortable for years and now am blown away by the comfort and freedom of movement I feel doing SRT and DbRT.

Hey, @Crytough! Sorry I missed this post going by two months ago. Welcome to the TreeBuzz forum! Really great first post, also!

Every bit of information that gets added to the pool about the TreeMotion harnesses is really helpful, in my opinion, as people's experiences vary so much. Thanks for your post, and please stick around and make yourself at home here.

Tim
 
Hey, @Crytough! Sorry I missed this post going by two months ago. Welcome to the TreeBuzz forum! Really great first post, also!

Every bit of information that gets added to the pool about the TreeMotion harnesses is really helpful, in my opinion, as people's experiences vary so much. Thanks for your post, and please stick around and make yourself at home here.

Tim
Thanks Tim! I def enjoy the industry threads. Its good to see other perspectives than what i get through only my own work experience and the guys i folks i come into contact with.

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