Tree Motion Light

Just a quick update. Bought a Treemotion light for one of the crew because he knew how much I was enjoying mine. He did not like it, and much preferred his Matt Cornell saddle. Just goes to show that saddles are such a personal choice and reviews only help so much. Best to fly before you buy
I always say, harnesses are like boots and bras. Ya gotta try them to see if they suit you.

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I have climbed in dozens of saddle over the last 35+ years and I have to say that the TM light has been the most comfortable saddle (including regular Treemotion) for skinny/slim climbers like myself. The thinner padding and saddle material make the saddle really conform to your body. Most of my work are removals with larger saws up to a 395XP, and with suspenders I am shocked how comfy this thing is. I have always felt that big, beefy saddles with lots of padding were needed for a good removal saddle, but the TM LIGHT has been a bit of a revelation for me. I have owned a Matt Cornell, New Tribe Onyx, and the regular TM, but the TM light bested them all for this skinny old climber!

Thought I would bump this old thread for anyone researching the Treemotion S.Light. I agree, 100% with what Erik posted above. The S.Light is a fine harness just as it comes. It does not "need" the comfort back padding to be comfortable. Having used it both ways, I prefer it without as I find it stays in position, on my hips better. Also, having fought the adjustability of the quick-release buckles on the standard TM, the slide buckles of the S.Light are a big improvement. Compared to everything else that we, as tree climbers need to do, stepping into the harness is of little consequence, and to me, is a non issue.
 
Sure did. Like you, I have had many different harnesses, including the standard TM. I would rate the S.Light right up there with the best in how it functions, and for how comfortable it is. Fit is far more important than padding.
 
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I e had mine for a year now and it is comfy. I had the Buckingham rebellion before that. I can sit in the tm for hours. Pruned an ash on Friday and I was in that tree for three hours with no problems. I haven’t felt the need to add extra padding for the back. I also prefer to wear it just at my hips and I like the way I sit into it instead of wearing it high and tight. Very nice when I had to remove a layer of clothing and readjust the belt as well
 
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Ya if im tied in above and have my lanyards anchored I'm fine unbuckling and tightening the belt while in the tree.
 
Tweaking the one i just bought. Wish the leg loops had buckles vs strap cinch, super comfy after a little adjusting (and reading all the old threads). Haven't perfected the tophandle/handsaw interface yet... Either they are too close or tophandle is too far back on saddle (caritool).
 
Sure did. Like you, I have had many different harnesses, including the standard TM. I would rate the S.Light right up there with the best in how it functions, and for how comfortable it is. Fit is far more important than padding.
I'm glad you have been enjoying the TM light. The TM light and the MCRS are the only 2 saddles that have left me completely satisfied. I have found that the more I climb in and break in my MCRS the more it reminds me of the TM light. Both conform to my hip girdle like a well fitting glove and just disappear during a long day in the saddle.
 
Tweaking the one i just bought. Wish the leg loops had buckles vs strap cinch, super comfy after a little adjusting (and reading all the old threads). Haven't perfected the tophandle/handsaw interface yet... Either they are too close or tophandle is too far back on saddle (caritool).
Never understood the arb worlds obsession with clipping your chainsaw on your saddle. Tried it a time or 2, fucking hated it, and quickly went back to a trusty saw leash..
 
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Never understood the arb worlds obsession with clipping your chainsaw on your saddle. Tried it a time or 2, fucking hated it, and quickly went back to a trusty saw leash..
It just depends on what you're doing. I move through a lot of unions every single day. That's a lot of picking up my saw instead of letting it hang on my gear. I want it as high and tight as I can get it so that I have to mess with it as little as possible.
 
Never understood the arb worlds obsession with clipping your chainsaw on your saddle. Tried it a time or 2, fucking hated it, and quickly went back to a trusty saw leash..

I need to go in that direction, thx for the reminder Rico. I’ve never liked a saw clipped right to my belt. To be specific are you referring to an over the shoulder across the chest strap with the saw hanging on that? If so that seems excellent for so many reasons.
-AJ
 
Mine’s a piece of thin 3 strand that the power company uses, maybe 3/8”. Goes from saddle to a screw lock hms that fits over the handle of any saw. Long enough to reach anywhere I can reach with either arm. Make a cut and drop the saw. I drop it kinda gently, slow it to a stop, I’m not tempting fate with the little ring on my top handle and dropping a 441 or something 4 feet might end with my saddle around my knees or worn damaged webbing on the saddle.

I’ll clip it closer if I’m gonna go for a swing. Keeps it from penduluming around and clobbering me.
I pass through unions often too, just gotta police it up behind me it takes 2 seconds.

You can see where it usually hangs in my avatar pic. Maybe 4 feet below me.
 
I need to go in that direction, thx for the reminder Rico. I’ve never liked a saw clipped right to my belt. To be specific are you referring to an over the shoulder across the chest strap with the saw hanging on that? If so that seems excellent for so many reasons.
-AJ
Naw. Just a 3'-4' rope with an eye splice on each end. On the one hander I biner into the clip on the saw, and with anything bigger I girth the saw handle with one eye and a biner on the other, which attaches to my saddle. Be serving me for 40 yrs.

Racking and unpacking a saw on your saddle takes time, means you have a hot exhaust near you and your saddle, and is a motion that will eventually beat the shit out of your shoulder.
 
Ok, makes sense Rico. Bango Skank's limited use of clipping to the saddle also makes sense.

I don't throw even my top handle down onto a static leash or bungee, I use a static tether and just slide it through my hand/fingers when I drop it similar to what Bango Skank describes.

For small/light top handles leaving it hanging on a leash is like dragging a small boat anchor behind you when you're doing a lot of horizontal movement on broadleaf/hardwood pruning jobs. It gets hung on everything. It's more about what is the less painful method for whatever your working situation is. Rico's leash only/no clip up to the saddle makes sense for big conifers.

I'm going to work on an over the shoulder sling idea with a leash at the end that can hang down or hold the saw clipped up depending on what task/type of tree I'm working in. Especially when I'm hauling a back-handled saw, that purely sucks clipped to the saddle. An over the shoulder/chest sling/leash combo might be nice for hanging a big saw. I believe I've seen more than one photo of someone doing something like that, might have been Gerry Beranek.
-AJ
 
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Ok, makes sense Rico. Bango Skank's limited use of clipping to the saddle also makes sense.

I don't throw even my top handle down onto a static leash or bungee, I use a static tether and just slide it through my hand/fingers when I drop it similar to what Bango Skank describes.

For small/light top handles leaving it hanging on a leash is like dragging a small boat anchor behind you when you're doing a lot of horizontal movement on broadleaf/hardwood pruning jobs. It gets hung on everything. It's more about what is the less painful method for whatever your working situation is. Rico's leash only/no clip up to the saddle makes sense for big conifers.

I'm going to work on an over the shoulder sling idea with a leash at the end that can hang down or hold the saw clipped up depending on what task/type of tree I'm working in. Especially when I'm hauling a back-handled saw, that purely sucks clipped to the saddle. An over the shoulder/chest sling/leash combo might be nice for hanging a big saw. I believe I've seen more than one photo of someone doing something like that, might have been Gerry Beranek.
-AJ
Cool idea. Could keep the saw very high. Could have potential....
 
I have these rather large toolbags that I use for climbing/rigging gear. They came with a padded shoulder sling with a pouch I use for my radio, and to carry a big saw when I need it, or anything else I need to take up into the tree. I think I have four of these that I added a little hardware to, for this purpose. A couple were downstairs, so here's a pic... works well. I hate hanging a big saw on my harness. The tophandle saws I clip tight, but the bigger ones I use these, because I also hate the saw swinging around beneath me. I don't get many straight trees around here.

shoulder-saw-sling.webp

I can clip a saw lanyard to it, and when needed just clip to saw when I am moving around in the tree. All of my saws have been fitted with a steel ring so they can all be clipped to the Transporter on saddle, when desired.
 

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