Yeah I was so careful clearing the house and raising it up. This is really crazy. There was one planted as a street tree.I dont think by the city but by the home owner I had to crown raise it and tuck it in so no one would poke an eye out. A unmaintain shrub can literally be a hugh ball of thorns all intertwined It's one bad a@s bi#ch.
Tom that is a great site thanks, I just faved it to my tool bar to send later in my laptop along with my other ISA study guide references. Again thanks