Tree Flex?

Re: Tree Flex!

I just wanted to give this thread a BUMP, just ordered a Treeflex the other day. I have been in a "Master II" for a little over 5 years now. It is time for an upgrade. After reading every post on the TFX and checking out the website on a daily basis this is definitly the harness to get, hands down. I can't wait to set up the Tree Frog on this harness. Also, how can one in the states get ahold of an Ocean Polyester cord with eye/eye stitched terminations? Thanks.
 
I have a quick question about the saddle. I had a small discussion with my boss about lifting belts and how they really are not good for day to day lifting because your back becomes dependant. Does the treeflex provide the same type of support? Would you have more back problems once you stopping climbing in a treeflex?
 
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Would you have more back problems once you stopping climbing in a treeflex?

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Quick answer no, your back will be stronger.

Long answer:

With a 'lifting belt', the belt itself holds your lower back ridged and does not allow it to move. so your back over time actually becomes weaker when the belt is not in use. That is why the instructions on a lifting belt say to not wear it if not actually lifting.

The whole idea of the TreeFlex is to Strengthen the lower back by allowing the muscles of your body to develop and take the load naturally. The treeflex simply guides you body in moving in the correct way.
 
Agreed with Frans.

There was a first few days in the TFx when things really felt different because I was using back muscles that were stashed behind a belt.

After a day of climbing I no longer have to sing praises for the lumbar support of my car seat on the commute home. Or worse, riding w/o one.

Now to get a modern chipper for the same reasons.

Just a friendly reminder to stretch out before climbing.
 
Re: Tree Flex!

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I just wanted to give this thread a BUMP, just ordered a Treeflex the other day. I have been in a "Master II" for a little over 5 years now. It is time for an upgrade. After reading every post on the TFX and checking out the website on a daily basis this is definitly the harness to get, hands down. I can't wait to set up the Tree Frog on this harness. Also, how can one in the states get ahold of an Ocean Polyester cord with eye/eye stitched terminations? Thanks.

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Be sure to let us know how you get on WoodlandTC! I'm sure it will reward you.
 
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I have a quick question about the saddle. I had a small discussion with my boss about lifting belts and how they really are not good for day to day lifting because your back becomes dependant. Does the treeflex provide the same type of support? Would you have more back problems once you stopping climbing in a treeflex?

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Jim and Frans explained the concept well!

The challenge for me with the project, was getting the harness to work in all phases of a climb from Frogging up to leaning out at the tips and then rigging down on spurs.

Its when we are on spurs or leaning out on branches, that we need support, but not restrict the full range of motion. So the padding cradles the pelvis nicely, but we can still lean and twist without restriction.

A huge benefit of the lower belt, is the space that opens up above your flipline - you can hold the chainsaw with great efficiency by keeping the elbows close to the hips, without the flipline being in the way.
 
Another quick question. Is it ANSI approved? I really only ask this because the company I work for will only allow you to wear ANSI approved saddles. For liability reason of course. 22kN or 4950 or 5000 its all the same to me. But the boss man says it has to be ANZI aproved. *crosses fingers*
 
Seems the only approval for work positioning harnesses through Ansi is the Z133 requirement to have a minimum tensile strength of 5000# for each component.

This is arbitrary, and assigned by a group of tree work professionals on the Z133 committee.

Euro harnesses are drop, pull and corrosion TESTED, and must state a safe working life. For work positioning, this independent standard is EN813.

TreeFlex passes EN813 and has a 3yr safe working life, depending on specific usage, wear and tear. This must be determined regularly by a competent person following inspection.

So, if climbers want to wear euro harnesses, they need to lobby the Z133 committee.
 
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This is arbitrary, and assigned by a group of tree work professionals on the Z133 committee.



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I agree!

When you come to learn that a committee member is ALSO a manufacturer, you get a clear idea of the corruptness of the system
 
I kind of took that as a no. Which really sucks so I'm praying that it passes (asked someone at work to find out for me). If you don't follow ANSI you open yourself up to alot of liability and for the larger companies out thier they hate that. I hope that seeing the USFS uses CE and ANSI I might be able to get hem to use EN but I doubt it.
 
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