Throw weight thoughts

10 oz and 1.75 zing it and have thrown it accurately 130' (i have three witnesses) although i like a cradle throw and 75' alot better. if i need to go lower in the tree i put on a heavier weight it makes the accuracy so much better.
 
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I just throw until someone gets hurt. Ounces don't matter.


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That's funny! I love brinksmanship. You would be a fine sport.
 
50'and under i hand throw. over 50' the big shot comes out. i have an assortment of bags, 8oz 12oz 16oz. i use 200' dynaglide green. love it :) i prefer heavier bags for brushy twigy trees like silky oaks and willows and like the lighter bags for pines and large monkey pod tree's.
 
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I just throw until someone gets hurt. Ounces don't matter.


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That's funny! I love brinksmanship. You would be a fine sport.

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You wouldn't have the stones to find out.
 
I used the Treepedo all season. Wouldn't go back to the bag. I keep bags around if I have to work it down a roof. It flys better, it really shines on the jigging into position as it's solid material bounces. It's 12oz I might add some weight to it.

I tried the fishing rod and found it better suited to it's original purpose, horizontal shots.
 
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I used the Treepedo all season. Wouldn't go back to the bag. I keep bags around if I have to work it down a roof. It flys better, it really shines on the jigging into position as it's solid material bounces. It's 12oz I might add some weight to it.

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Cool tool, the Treepedo would've saved me a few hung throwbags over the years. The bounce factor is a downside, though sometimes you get a good bounce :-)

I think TomTheTreeman and the Treepedo would be a bad combination though. I can imagine that thing putting the hurt to a hard hat on a bad throwing day.
-AJ
 
I use 12oz to 14oz bags.
I like to use heaver bags for shaggier and thicker barked trees. And like mentioned above tossing or shooting through thick conifers I like a heaver weight, to insure that the weight comes down from those dense canopy’s.
 
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I'm thinking it might have something to do with 'impedance-matching' or 'energy-transfer-rate' ... whatever. I remember studying that one semester. It might be that I can tranfer more energy to a 16oz at my top swing rate than I can transfer to a 12oz bag.

I've got a 20oz bag, too ... might hurt myself with that one, LOL
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Maybe you just tried harder with the 16oz.
 
That is interesting. I have always had good height with a 12 oz weight. Seems to be the right mix for me. Lighter ones get hung up. And, the higher you get the more line and friction there is so... I used a 12 oz bag in the master's climb in Nashville and it took forever to drop to the ground because I threw up over the top of the canopy and it didn't want to come down. Anyone remember that? Painful for me to think about it.
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Bo, with the treepedo, how do you take it on and off? I usually never pull my bag through the tree if I miss. I let it drop, remove it with a quick yank, and then I pull my empty line back through. I have dented hoods and broken glass tables by pulling my bag through the tree and letting it fall. I always use a quick release knot that the bag comes on and off of real quick and easy.

Almost all of my work seems to be in tight backyards with lots of random garden ornaments everywhere. THere is a place to tie it on the back, but the video and the dierctions say to tighten the line on with a screw. Quickly decided that was not happening for me.

Also, I am having difficulty forming a basket throw with the treepedo. It came with a little key chain ring that got destroyed the first time I pulled it through a funky crotch. I have to say it definitly does NOT get stuck which is very nice. I tried and tried to get it stuck to no avail. When you miss and hit the tree it bounces like crazy though. Dont know if thats bad or good yet, different. There are four separate parts to it which overloads my synapses some what.

I just very recently got one and am trying to work it out. definitly some potential. I will keep you all posted on what I find. Right now I need a good solution for throwing basket style, I feel too old to try to change my throwing teqnique.

I got it originally because I wanted the "rope shield" or the cone that you put over your line to pull it up into the tree. Too many times, I have had to give up a perfectly crotch because I couldnt pull my rope through a group of suckers. I imagine that palm workers would find this tool very useful too. The rope shield can be bought seperatly for 30 something dollars if you dont want to bight the bullet on the entire system. The Rope Shield, from what I understand is the answer to the original problem Mr. Amorim was trying to solve. After inventing the Rope Shield he developed the full throw weight system. I think that the "Rope Shield" can easily be overlooked if you look at the whole "Rope Armour" system. Throwing throwbags was never a problem for me but pulling my rope into the tree has always left something to be desired. I can also see that the Rope Sheild will be very useful for dDRT climbers trying to thread their cambium savers.

Just a couple of times that the rope shield does not get stuck or saves you a mess it will pay for itself. Regardless of what I find with the Rope Armour throw weight, the ingeniousness of the "Rope Sheild" can not be denied. Defintily a must in everyone's tool kit.
 
RopeArmour aka Treepedo throw weight with the vinyl/rubber protective sleeve is fine for most urban environments and if there is any vehicles or people etc we offer a foam and rubber protector I have used over a green house with out any worry. The protectors also add an ounce or two to the overall weight and do not effect its performance much. I keep some brass rod weight in my full time throw weight so it is closer to 12 ounces.
 

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Thanks for giving it a throw. Like to give you some help with this because it is a completely new throw weight and the first time through can be interesting.
It comes with a short loop of dyneema so you can use it exactly like a throw bag you just need to install the loop through the tip with the wire fid and then you have a place to connect the biner or split ring it came with or you can use what ever you already own clevis, maillon rapide, what ever you want and then it is ready to throw like Just like the classic bag.
If your afraid breaking something with a throw weight and your performing tree operations you still have to move anything that can be broken. Check out the Safe image attached with the previous reply.
This throw weight is meant to be a smooth and frictionless aerodynamic form. But You can intall a small ring of any size or description with a girth hitch to the throwline at the tip of the throw weight or at any distance along the throw line.Do your traditional through the leg pendulum toss, its that easy. With regards to the ease of the slip knot and tieing and untieng thats cool but With a little practice with this throw weigh/system of coupling and spinning a bolt it is as easy or easier than hunting down the throw bag and untieing and retieng or haveing slip knot slip unexpectedly. Either way with this throw weight you are not limited. Enterior or exterior connection and knotted or knotles connections. Thats what makes it so cool, in the real world, its more than a throw weight its a customizable and adaptable system.

With regards to metal bouncing I think your choice of words is correct 50% of the time, IMO the other 50 it is a ricochet or deflection and this is the advantage of RopeArmours hard body over the soft and malleable throw weight.
Most throw weights will slow down or fall short of the target where the RopeKnight will pierce the crown, glide, slide and slip past most obstacles all the way to the ground quickly and effeciently.

You clearly see the benefit of the RopeShield and those same features and benefits are applied to the throw weight. Smooth,frictionless, rigid body for ease of movement.Doesn't that make sense? I am getting this right?

Its is easy to see you have a choice now of a throw weight that is fabric and malleable or metal and hard.
I prefer to fly down the pond on hard edged metal skates and not in my sock feet. We get to the same place but its a personal choice.

Trees are similar to an iced over pond, They can be full of hazards and obstacles and the other tuth is I am good shot to 40' and hitting my target at 1 in 5. This tool helps me with missed shots, retrieval, isolating the TIP, positioning the rope, pull handle and endline security knot. I am better at rope acccess because my tool is improved.
I agree with you and many more who are exceptional at throwing might only need something like this a few times a year. But the real truth is there are alot of arborists trying to make a buck, save time, aggravation and energy and just want to get home to their loved ones befor dark. And they are the ones who will benefit from this throw weight more than you will.
 

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