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This thread cracks me up . Why does everyone always think the worst ? Kids need to work hard , they don't realize how stupid they are till they start working . I rather see a twelve year old working a real job than laying around playing video games . I started real young , I was so stupid working for my Pop I thought that those envelopes everyone else got on fridays was mail . Glad to see your near miss was just that . Harry Chapman had that song " I'm gonna be like you Dad" .
 
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I'm not too sure how it works legally, but father and son laws are a bit different than standard employment law. Something to do with family business and farms and apprenticeship and such. I was morticing timbers when I was 6. my dad always said I had the best touch with a gouge out of the whole family. Kids have an eye for detail and an eagerness to please someone they love that cannot be disputed. We are in this for money, time is money. They are in it because its fun and they're helping dad; time?, you mean we have to go home already? For those of us that have been lucky enough to grow up working beside our fathers, no other experience in my life has ever meant more to me. I'm glad to see you're ok and you're son learned from the experience. Good luck!
 
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right on kylimb, blinky, im going with what that man says, i always use butt ties unless i absolutly have to switch, i too was dealing with inexperienced groundsman and i know exactly what your going through (had them pull a top out on me once, took a nice little ride on my lanyard with that one) anyway, i always, and i mean always, tell my ground guys exactly what i want them to do with every cut i make, after a while they got so good at it that we broke it down into sign language, now all you really hear on the job site is "headache" and the sounds of chainsaws. be careful out there brother, a climber is only as good as his roper
 
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Here here Familytree, not enough said for a good groundie. Anyway, as far as I know child labor laws do not matter when dealing within the family, also I am pretty sure that differs from state to state. As far as getting your son to work with you, good. Does a kid good to work hard like that (I am just recently becomming not a kid and am really glad my parents made me work).
Stay safe and keep your kid safe. I would think it way worse to end up with your child injured on your watch then having something injure you.
 
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I like to tip tie brushy pieces, its easier toget those pieces down and towards the chipper. I can't wait until my son is old enough to help dad on the weekend, and I could care less what the law will state in the next decade.
 
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It's a good thing I had just swallowed my coffee..otherwise my laptop would be dripping mocha! Thanks for checking in Glenn
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I had one of my son's out lowering stuff on a POW when he was 7 or 8. I just made sure it was on jobs with good clients/Friends.

I've had all 3 of my boys chip brush around the house, before they were 10. Of course I was standing right there to very closely monitor their every move.

Boys need to be dangerous. A good book to ready on that subject is "Wild at heart" by John Eldridge.

Working in the family business is good for kids and is allowed in many states I think. I washed dishes starting at 12 I think. Had to stand on a milk crate to run the dishwasher at my parents restaurant.
 
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ya know what?
Once again I think I posted before thinking.
I appologize for my half witted comments.

here is a picture my my nutty daughter, bailing out of the tree boat hammock onto a trampoline filled with water.
Child abuse?
 

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here is a picture my my nutty daughter, bailing out of the tree boat hammock onto a trampoline filled with water.
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Nah, looks more like trampoline abuse to me... I'm gonna have to try it.
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This has been an interesting thread, and honestly, when I first read that the groundman was your 12 year old son, I thought to myself "I wouldn't have my son out there" (side note - I have no children....yet)

.... then I read your response, and others, and then finally thought back to my childhood, and our family business. My dad bought a small 9 hole golf course in Watkins Glen NY, and we tried to make it work for 5 years before going broke, but a big component of that family business was all of us (5) pitching in the do the heavy lifting.

I was easily 10 or 11 when I graduated to the John Deere 600 dragging the five rotary gang mowers to cut the rough.



I probably shouldn't have been doing that, but I still get nostalgic when I get on a riding lawn mower....


I'm happy for you, Blinky, that you get to experience tree work with your boy.

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I have two boy's and i can't keep them away from tree work , they just love the challenge...
This pic on a large pine ...

Later in SO-CAL...
 

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This pic on a large pine ...

Later in SO-CAL...

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THAT'S what I'm talking about! Any dad who can get pictures like that with his kids is definitely doing something right.
 
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I think that it's very important to teach kids hard work , that way they can appreciated things more.. Get the kids away from those stupid video games.. I'm also my boy's varsity football coach ,, my youngest he's 16yr now, climb and drop his first big tree when he was 15 yr ..

Later in SO-CAL
 
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I have 3 boys. The ages are 2,4, & 6. When I come home, they want to unload logs with me. They want to dump the truck (mulch). They want to grind chains.... The list goes on.

I don't discourage the help they offer now because I know if I did they would not help me when they are teenagers. So, I monitor what they can help me with. And as time goes by (they get older) I will introduce them to different stuff (advanced stuff). I can't wait until my first born, Parker, fells his first tree. I am thinking somewhere around 10-12 years old.
 

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Cool. I almost bought one of those little stihl toy saws myself but my son was just a little bit too old when I first saw one.

Nothing in life beats staying close to one's kids and giving them as much time as can be given. For me it's paid off in so many ways.

Great shots.

I got one...

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